Jul 15, 2026 · 41 min · 11 segments
Thanks as ever to Flemming Blicher for this ongoing exploration of my book, *Wall Street, the Nazis, and the Crimes of the Deep State*. In Part 3b (recorded on the same day at Part 3), we addressed…
And you begin this, uh, chapter by describing how the birth of the CIA had contributed to the rise of terror tac- tactics, death squads, assassination of political opponents, and mass murder of civilians.
Please enlighten us to, uh, how these subjects fit together and how that relates to what you call intelligence crime, the name of the chapter.
So the concept of intelligence crime, first of all, um, was, uh, coined by a scholar called Willem de Lint in 2021.
Um, he defines intelligence crime as crime committed by, uh, dark actors operating in the highest echelons of power, who furtively manipulate national security apparatuses to advance agendas that benefit themselves, while, if required, inflicting near unimaginable harm on others.
Um, and so what's important, and what I try to draw out in this chapter, I mean, last time round we discussed Gladio, but actually this deep state structure has been at the heart of US foreign policy since the late 1940s at least.
And US foreign policy since then has in many ways just been a catalog of war crimes and atrocities that have been masked by various forms of propaganda and exceptionalist narratives.
And the scale of these atrocities is so great, it's almost impossible to, for any ordinary person to, to conceive of, or the fact that the public has just been lied to about the true purposes of, of US foreign policy.
When really you see this ruthless imperialist project for the advancement of, of, of, uh, capitalism willing to resort to any measures.
Um, and so when trying to make sense of all of this, I, I found de Lint's concept of intelligence crime to be quite useful, because we need to put some kind of a label on it, and of course, it contains the word intelligence, and so much of what we've been talking about has had to do with intelligence, uh, agencies.
Um, so when we're thinking about some of these kind of covert, uh, operations, uh, for example, uh, which have been used to, to, to destabilize, um, countries, um, and kind of benefits, um, the interests of major US corporations in particular.
Um, President Eisenhower was in office for eight years, and during that time he authorized 104 covert operations on four continents.
So again, this is the opposite of, you know, being this kind of defensive posture against communism.
And you begin this, uh, chapter by describing how the birth of the CIA had contributed to the rise of terror tac- tactics, death squads, assassination of political opponents, and mass murder of civilians.
Please enlighten us to, uh, how these subjects fit together and how that relates to what you call intelligence crime, the name of the chapter.
So the concept of intelligence crime, first of all, um, was, uh, coined by a scholar called Willem de Lint in 2021.
Um, he defines intelligence crime as crime committed by, uh, dark actors operating in the highest echelons of power, who furtively manipulate national security apparatuses to advance agendas that benefit themselves, while, if required, inflicting near unimaginable harm on others.
Um, and so what's important, and what I try to draw out in this chapter, I mean, last time round we discussed Gladio, but actually this deep state structure has been at the heart of US foreign policy since the late 1940s at least.
And US foreign policy since then has in many ways just been a catalog of war crimes and atrocities that have been masked by various forms of propaganda and exceptionalist narratives.
And the scale of these atrocities is so great, it's almost impossible to, for any ordinary person to, to conceive of, or the fact that the public has just been lied to about the true purposes of, of US foreign policy.
When really you see this ruthless imperialist project for the advancement of, of, of, uh, capitalism willing to resort to any measures.
Um, and so when trying to make sense of all of this, I, I found de Lint's concept of intelligence crime to be quite useful, because we need to put some kind of a label on it, and of course, it contains the word intelligence, and so much of what we've been talking about has had to do with intelligence, uh, agencies.
Um, so when we're thinking about some of these kind of covert, uh, operations, uh, for example, uh, which have been used to, to, to destabilize, um, countries, um, and kind of benefits, um, the interests of major US corporations in particular.
Um, President Eisenhower was in office for eight years, and during that time he authorized 104 covert operations on four continents.
So again, this is the opposite of, you know, being this kind of defensive posture against communism.
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