Aug 24, 2026 · 1 hr 51 min · 35 segments
What does it truly take to move from a place of chronic anxiety and inherited trauma into profound spiritual clarity? While many know Max Moszkowicz for…
Max MoszkowiczGuest
primitive reflects and that is they tend to have the need to explain everything to something they know right uh any yeah we still do this but like in the older days religion was always something uh to go to right
yeah

so if you see something in the skies it's angels it's demons it's it's something godly it's something divine right it's from the bible or the quran or the torah whatever you believe in but yeah so humans have the the need to explain to place something in their categorized mindset right but I think it's also very healthy to just be and not label something directly and experience something and just yeah we'll just sit on it for a while I guess
yeah i think so too but that's almost impossible for for anyone you know begin you know because we want to file we have a file cabinet and we got to put that in the christian file the muslim file the crazy file right so so we know um who these people are or exactly where they're coming from we have to give a name to something and yeah yeah you know bringing up the bible that that was one of the things in the bible that that god like commanded adam to do was like hey i I'm going to give you all of this stuff and animals and mountains and all that stuff, but you have to give it a name.
You have to associate a thought and an idea with it.
And we're still doing that today.

And by the way, I don't disqualify religion as something that could be directly involved with what we see.

So if there's something out there, it's also created by God, if you believe in that.

But the problem is we tend to think we are the center of the universe and there's only one form of life.

But it takes me to Galileo, right? Galileo, he got into it with the Catholic Church, with the Pope in his days.
Yeah.
Like you said, where there's smoke, there's fire.
When you think about Richard Dolan, he put out an article or a video that kind of went viral about making that distinction between the UAPs and UFO community and how the people who tell the grandiose stories of being taken off world and being taught for 20 years and then they come back and only three minutes have passed and they've lived several lifetimes.
And for some reason, it seems like those stories that seem steeped in fantasy seem to outweigh or get shared as much um or if not more than the nuts and bolts stuff like people are drawn to the fantasy side of it but then again i don't want to do a disservice for people if someone who is it's if they're telling the truth right and you're like yeah we don't believe you kind of thing you know

primitive reflects and that is they tend to have the need to explain everything to something they know right uh any yeah we still do this but like in the older days religion was always something uh to go to right
yeah

so if you see something in the skies it's angels it's demons it's it's something godly it's something divine right it's from the bible or the quran or the torah whatever you believe in but yeah so humans have the the need to explain to place something in their categorized mindset right but I think it's also very healthy to just be and not label something directly and experience something and just yeah we'll just sit on it for a while I guess
yeah i think so too but that's almost impossible for for anyone you know begin you know because we want to file we have a file cabinet and we got to put that in the christian file the muslim file the crazy file right so so we know um who these people are or exactly where they're coming from we have to give a name to something and yeah yeah you know bringing up the bible that that was one of the things in the bible that that god like commanded adam to do was like hey i I'm going to give you all of this stuff and animals and mountains and all that stuff, but you have to give it a name.
You have to associate a thought and an idea with it.
And we're still doing that today.

And by the way, I don't disqualify religion as something that could be directly involved with what we see.

So if there's something out there, it's also created by God, if you believe in that.

But the problem is we tend to think we are the center of the universe and there's only one form of life.

But it takes me to Galileo, right? Galileo, he got into it with the Catholic Church, with the Pope in his days.
Yeah.
Like you said, where there's smoke, there's fire.
When you think about Richard Dolan, he put out an article or a video that kind of went viral about making that distinction between the UAPs and UFO community and how the people who tell the grandiose stories of being taken off world and being taught for 20 years and then they come back and only three minutes have passed and they've lived several lifetimes.
And for some reason, it seems like those stories that seem steeped in fantasy seem to outweigh or get shared as much um or if not more than the nuts and bolts stuff like people are drawn to the fantasy side of it but then again i don't want to do a disservice for people if someone who is it's if they're telling the truth right and you're like yeah we don't believe you kind of thing you know
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