Bob Lazar

This is the same system from the infamous alien abduction, the Barney and Betty story, where they claim that aliens telepathically told them that's where they came from.

Also, Bob Lazar mentions he was briefed that these crafts he was working on were from a Zeta Reticuli system, so that's where a lot of these stories converge.

Now here's where it gets crazy.

The P-47s are rogue.

I mean, and by the

way, speaking of going back just a little bit, um, There really has been time travel has been a part of ufology for a long time, at least since Bob Lazar came out.

He because he mentioned he's like, oh, yeah, the craft I worked on distorted space and time, you know, and he talked about this.

He said that's how they work.

I think he's I think he's he's been gotten to or he's he's got an agenda or he's basically been told, OK, we need you to say this, whatever, you know.

Like, you know, for how many years Bob Lazar was basically thrown under the buzz that he never worked for the military, he never worked there.

And, you know, he talked about Element 115.

It turns out he's right.

Well, I also think they can't copy one to one because they don't necessarily understand.

I know that from what I've read in a number of books, they've done their best to imitate, but a lot of times they don't understand the technology, even the Bob Lazar story.

You know, they're talking about the sports model.

They had the motor sitting there right there on their desk and they saw what it could do, but they couldn't understand why or how it was doing what it was doing.

When we look at the conscious field theory, consciousness as a field, a fundamental field of the universe, that explains a lot of the ET stuff, like why they do other tests on us for consciousness.

How Bob Lazarus says we're containers, right? Of the sea field.

So we're, you know, like they're, they're, the ETs seem to be more interested in consciousness experiments than nuclear physics or anything else because they've solved all that stuff.

So consciousness might be, you know, where it's at and probably, um, the most important field to study.

It's an F4.

Bob Lazar actually was up there with a Nazi craft too.

They're not all actually trustful.

But don't mind me, a little left field moment.

And in Ezekiel chapter 1 and Ezekiel chapter 10, when it speaks of these visions, burning wheels that come out of the sky, those are ofaim, and it refers to them as having spirits and that they were able to act.

And when you, I don't know if you have ever listened to some of the things that Bob Lazar has spoken of, but he claims that when he was working at Area 51, that he was tasked with working on an engine that was recovered from an ancient archeological dig and that the engine was a living organism.

So put that in your pipe and smoke it.

I mean, that's what we're referring to as Ophain, these creations that have become sentient.

And I remember when you and Paula Francis were doing the news case, you had five o'clock and you would have a live guest on.

And I remember going through them and finding the original Bob Lazar interview and the excitement that I had at that moment, like I'd found patient zero.

No, it's really what it felt like to me, and I think I used that phrase.

I found the first interview with Bob Lazar that was on TV, and I know you've talked about it before, but I think it's worthy of being discussed again briefly on what that was like that night.

That interview that you did live with Bob Lazar, and it was a little more than 30 years ago now, that did spawn all this, I think, with you.

I don't want to speak for you, but I think it did sort of spawn this with you, and it was a live interview.

It was totally organic, not something that you went out and pursued.

I mean, you did eventually, but something that you were thrust into.

think where I always go to with this stuff, I suppose it's a lot more to do with power sources.

And I know that Lazar has talked about the element that is used to power these things and to create the reaction required to have the effect that these things have.

and how there's a lot of discussion around minerals and kind of materials native to this world don't quite marry up and we haven't got that element but yet we have been able to reproduce it I could talk forever and just ramble on this stuff but I'm not going to do that I'm going to hand back to you but I think it's very interesting and very shrouded in mystery is what I'm going to say

yeah yeah and i that there's a few things that jumped out i just want to kind of pick up on uh from what you mentioned before i talk about superconductivity and how that kind of led the 1990s into various bits of technological advancement or research um and the first one is lazar interestingly said that when he kind of touched the skin i think of the uh the craft that he was looking at he kind of felt some he felt something like what he what he described as kind of electrostatic kind of effect yeah where your hands go up yeah yeah yeah so he and that was with the thing off right like

so um imagine touching it when it was live yeah

basically yeah exactly so it's like well he was kind of suggest that people ask him loads of questions about well how do you think it works everything he's like look i did what i could we've got these you know what he called these kind of anti-gravity cannons or whatever, that's wrong terminology, but everyone can look at Lazarum where he's talking about, he's got these three things that were pointing in a direction and then it kind of either pulled or pushed and then the craft would move.

But he's saying that he was kind of convinced in himself, although it wasn't his job to do so, that the kind of external skin of the craft felt like it was some kind of electrostatic force sort of, you know, conductive kind of material that maybe had something to do with the whole abortion system.

And of course, you know, we're only looking at those, we're looking at the abortion system from background of people who've known about propulsion systems for aircraft for 70 years maybe less you know we're not experts in it it's just the way that we did it and you know we went from rotorcraft to jet engine and now we've got you know kind of little hypersonic stuff that is still based off of that concept but maybe this is something completely different so that that's something that kind of again kind of triggered that well maybe there's some sort of electromagnetic manipulation that is actually allowing that craft to do the stuff that it does all right so that that was kind of the first thing i was gonna say I can't remember the second thing I was going to say, Matt, to be honest with you, because I've got myself lost in the first