Aug 7, 2026 · 1 hr 22 min · 16 segments
What if the very thing we fear most—nonbeing—is also what gives life its deepest meaning? John Vervaeke welcomes philosopher Corey Anton to discuss his book, *How Nonbeing Haunts Being: On…
Corey AntonGuestOne is... don't know uh well there's three i i like this idea that you're something a western version of buddhism i think you're also a very neoplatonic um and and so you kind of i'm very interested in the emerging phenomena of zen neoplatonism where people are drawing these two together uh but the the thing the two i want to concentrate we'll come back to that one uh on are this idea that There's something sacred, something that is worthy of reverence, a mystery that we participate in that can disclose to us a deeper understanding without giving us any closure on who and what we are as being a central thing that religions are pointing to, but that they also might be misdirecting us because that gets displaced onto sort of metaphysical fire insurance.
That what I want is I want some certificate that will guarantee a life after death free of any kind of suffering or pain.
And it's interesting because it's a different kind of life, right? It's a life in which there's maximal reduction of non-being in that state.
There's no suffering, there's no longing, right? No hunger, no thirst, no weeping.
But religions also are displacing and distracting us by exploiting our fear of non-being.
And so without non-being, there's no way of relating or having any participation in being.
One is... don't know uh well there's three i i like this idea that you're something a western version of buddhism i think you're also a very neoplatonic um and and so you kind of i'm very interested in the emerging phenomena of zen neoplatonism where people are drawing these two together uh but the the thing the two i want to concentrate we'll come back to that one uh on are this idea that There's something sacred, something that is worthy of reverence, a mystery that we participate in that can disclose to us a deeper understanding without giving us any closure on who and what we are as being a central thing that religions are pointing to, but that they also might be misdirecting us because that gets displaced onto sort of metaphysical fire insurance.
That what I want is I want some certificate that will guarantee a life after death free of any kind of suffering or pain.
And it's interesting because it's a different kind of life, right? It's a life in which there's maximal reduction of non-being in that state.
There's no suffering, there's no longing, right? No hunger, no thirst, no weeping.
But religions also are displacing and distracting us by exploiting our fear of non-being.
And so without non-being, there's no way of relating or having any participation in being.
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