Haggai 1-2 Q&A with Tim Rowe

That's a great question.

I think in the talk, I was trying to build this picture that everything, everything in the creator world is being shaken or shook.

I'm not sure which way we're going for being shaken.

Heaven and earth, the sea and the dry land, all the nations.

So in what sense is heaven? I wonder if that's a picture to the judgment, even on heavenly beings, that is enacted in this final judgment.

And so perhaps whether, taking away where I think it all goes, but if this is all what takes place on the cross, primarily in Jesus' death, it seems to be where heaven is shaken.

In John 12, Jesus talked about his death in anticipation of what was about to take place.

And in verse 31, he says, Now is the judgment of this world.

Now will the ruler of this world be cast out.

And I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all people to myself.

I think there he's talking about Satan as the ruler of this world being cast out.

And as we've seen a couple of times through Zechariah, we've gone to Colossians.

And in Colossians 2, we do see this description of Jesus triumphing over Satan.

all powers and authorities.

And I think primarily in Colossians 2, that's a reference to spiritual powers and authorities, though it is inclusive of all powers and authorities.

And so I think that's the reference to heaven.

Every power or authority or rule or figure in heaven and on earth has been judged and defeated through Jesus' death.

Maybe we could just read verse 15 of Colossians 2, which says, He, which I think it is God, disarmed the rulers and authorities, and I think, as the footnote says in the ESV, They are probably demonic rulers and authorities, those who bring a charge or an accusation against God's people because of their sin.

Satan is the great accuser.

They've been triumphed over through Jesus' death.

He put them to open shame by triumphing over them in him, in Jesus, or in his death on the cross.

And if that record of debt that stands against us is taken away, there is no accusation and they are judged, which he also probably unpacked a little bit more through Revelation.

But I

think

that's the shaking of heaven.