Ryan AndersonGuest
Dan SmolenHost
Mark GilbreathHost
Fran SaeleHost
Um, Ryan, I wanna get back to this idea of neighborhood-based design because it-- I, I'm interested in, in how it supports teams, but I'm also interested in the, the emotional, the emotional part of it.

... what do your clients hope to achieve with it that maybe they haven't gotten with, uh, assigned seating and assigned cubicles or whatever modality that they had tried before?

Um, they're definitely hoping for higher levels of collaboration, where people are much more communicative and in touch with what each other's doing.

You know, there's, there are quite a few organizations that are saying, "I'm a little, a little concerned about investing a lot of capital in a physical space when it feels like our work patterns are changing so much." So these neighborhoods tend to be filled with a lot of, like, things on wheels and mobile whiteboards and-

And so we've known for a long time how to design more agile neighborhoods like that but, like I said, it was usually reserved for the digital team or the developers.

I think what they're often trying to create is something known as place attachment, but they wouldn't necessarily use that word.

... place attachment's an environmental psychology theory that basically suggests that we have relationships with people, but we also have relationships with places.

And if you get a really, like, well-established relationship with a place, you often start using possessive language.

So, like, if you sit at the same chair at your dining room table each night, and someone else were to sit in that, if you were to respond by, "Get out of my chair," that's a form of place attachment.

What's happening within offices is that a lot of people went to unassigned desking over the course of the last 10 years.

Like, if you listen to the conversation with Caroline at, at, at Cloudflare, it worked out really great for them.

Um, Ryan, I wanna get back to this idea of neighborhood-based design because it-- I, I'm interested in, in how it supports teams, but I'm also interested in the, the emotional, the emotional part of it.

... what do your clients hope to achieve with it that maybe they haven't gotten with, uh, assigned seating and assigned cubicles or whatever modality that they had tried before?

Um, they're definitely hoping for higher levels of collaboration, where people are much more communicative and in touch with what each other's doing.

You know, there's, there are quite a few organizations that are saying, "I'm a little, a little concerned about investing a lot of capital in a physical space when it feels like our work patterns are changing so much." So these neighborhoods tend to be filled with a lot of, like, things on wheels and mobile whiteboards and-

And so we've known for a long time how to design more agile neighborhoods like that but, like I said, it was usually reserved for the digital team or the developers.

I think what they're often trying to create is something known as place attachment, but they wouldn't necessarily use that word.

... place attachment's an environmental psychology theory that basically suggests that we have relationships with people, but we also have relationships with places.

And if you get a really, like, well-established relationship with a place, you often start using possessive language.

So, like, if you sit at the same chair at your dining room table each night, and someone else were to sit in that, if you were to respond by, "Get out of my chair," that's a form of place attachment.

What's happening within offices is that a lot of people went to unassigned desking over the course of the last 10 years.

Like, if you listen to the conversation with Caroline at, at, at Cloudflare, it worked out really great for them.
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