Jun 10, 2026 · 2 hr 16 min · 16 segments
One phone call with cardiologist and recovering alcoholic Rishi Menon and BOOM: we're instant Stepbrothers 😂 We dive into failing med school, 20 years of proving worthiness, recovery, suicidal…
Zubin DamaniaHost
Rishi MenonGuest
The mind wants something to chew on, something to progress it, something to grow its character, and so we give it spirituality because, because look, for you and me, you're a cardiologist, I'm a hospitalist.
You threw in a, a wonderful punch called alcoholism, which was [laughs] it just took it to the next level.
I had distraction into thought, which was my addiction, and food, which was also a, a good addiction.
But so then we give, we give the mind an escape in the form of spirituality and we go, "Okay, regular porn feels like an addiction, but spiritual porn feels like progress."
I'm like, uh, you know, forcing myself to do meta meditation to have compassion for all beings, which, hey, it's all beautiful.
Like, you can have these tremendous experiences, mystical experiences, great unity consciousness, but it, I don't think it has anything to do with the end of the suffering of an apparent separate self.
The mind wants something to chew on, something to progress it, something to grow its character, and so we give it spirituality because, because look, for you and me, you're a cardiologist, I'm a hospitalist.
You threw in a, a wonderful punch called alcoholism, which was [laughs] it just took it to the next level.
I had distraction into thought, which was my addiction, and food, which was also a, a good addiction.
But so then we give, we give the mind an escape in the form of spirituality and we go, "Okay, regular porn feels like an addiction, but spiritual porn feels like progress."
I'm like, uh, you know, forcing myself to do meta meditation to have compassion for all beings, which, hey, it's all beautiful.
Like, you can have these tremendous experiences, mystical experiences, great unity consciousness, but it, I don't think it has anything to do with the end of the suffering of an apparent separate self.
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