Lee HawkinsHost
P. Frank WilliamsPanelist
Well, I think, you know, as a person of color working in the media, I think Neil, myself, and you can speak to trying to find your way in it and, you know, deal with a mainstream position.

I worked at the LA Times when I graduated from Columbia Journalism School, and then became executive editor of The Source.

And so as the media changed from newspapers, which we both started in, to magazines at The Source, and Tupac, and Biggie, and Suge, and Dre, and all of that stuff I did in the '90s, and then transitioned to television.

If you'd have told me in 1996 when I was waiting for Suge for two days, um, to do an interview that I would be doing this, I didn't do that.

But I had to pivot, right? You have to learn, especially as a person of color, to adapt.

And so I call my company For the Culture by the culture 'cause a lot of times as a person of color, I do things about us, but the people working on it aren't of color, and the companies that own it and the people that put it out aren't that of color.

And so when you see people like Matt using his missed opportunity to give opportunities to his children, and that's what's important to me, is to all those things that I didn't get as a young man, to try to pour into the content for young people of color.

The most important thing I think they can learn is how to balance their money.

My family didn't really have money, so by the time I had a little bit here and there, I mismanaged it, some of it.

But now I'm able to use this content as a teaching tool, and I'm so happy that people like Neil, and Kelly, and all of us involved, and you, and all of my friends.

Mia, who's also a producer, Dinel, all of the people who worked on this show were wanting to give this message out.

So tonight I'm excited that the, this little RFP that Neil and Kelly put together from a paragraph into one page has you guys all in audience here tonight, so it's a tremendous victory for the culture.

And, um, I feel that Neil is a really good example of what we're seeing now and how important it is for traditional media to be courageous to do this kind of content, because we're back in this time now where there's anti-DEI and, and companies feel pressure not to do it.

I mean, to me, this, this content, uh, especially for the Black and brown community in the new young generation, is something that, uh, you're not seeing a lot of at this time.

Why was it important to show this side of the American dream and to want to inspire our young people?

Well, I think, you know, as a person of color working in the media, I think Neil, myself, and you can speak to trying to find your way in it and, you know, deal with a mainstream position.

I worked at the LA Times when I graduated from Columbia Journalism School, and then became executive editor of The Source.

And so as the media changed from newspapers, which we both started in, to magazines at The Source, and Tupac, and Biggie, and Suge, and Dre, and all of that stuff I did in the '90s, and then transitioned to television.

If you'd have told me in 1996 when I was waiting for Suge for two days, um, to do an interview that I would be doing this, I didn't do that.

But I had to pivot, right? You have to learn, especially as a person of color, to adapt.

And so I call my company For the Culture by the culture 'cause a lot of times as a person of color, I do things about us, but the people working on it aren't of color, and the companies that own it and the people that put it out aren't that of color.

And so when you see people like Matt using his missed opportunity to give opportunities to his children, and that's what's important to me, is to all those things that I didn't get as a young man, to try to pour into the content for young people of color.

The most important thing I think they can learn is how to balance their money.

My family didn't really have money, so by the time I had a little bit here and there, I mismanaged it, some of it.

But now I'm able to use this content as a teaching tool, and I'm so happy that people like Neil, and Kelly, and all of us involved, and you, and all of my friends.

Mia, who's also a producer, Dinel, all of the people who worked on this show were wanting to give this message out.

So tonight I'm excited that the, this little RFP that Neil and Kelly put together from a paragraph into one page has you guys all in audience here tonight, so it's a tremendous victory for the culture.

And, um, I feel that Neil is a really good example of what we're seeing now and how important it is for traditional media to be courageous to do this kind of content, because we're back in this time now where there's anti-DEI and, and companies feel pressure not to do it.

I mean, to me, this, this content, uh, especially for the Black and brown community in the new young generation, is something that, uh, you're not seeing a lot of at this time.

Why was it important to show this side of the American dream and to want to inspire our young people?
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