Nov 7, 2026 · 53 min · 17 segments
Journalist Charles Blow breaks down how MAGA lost it all. Get Jennifer’s new book Not Today, Fascists, join our Substack, shop our merch, and more by clicking here: https://linktr.ee/ivehaditpodcast…
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I was bothered by all of the above because I think there has been a cultural rot that Republican politics have incubated long before Donald Trump came around to demonize and scapegoat people so that white rich men could fleece them more.

And I really fundamentally believe that none of us are free until all of us are free.

And I think that we have to, after Donald Trump, biology at some point will take care of him, term limits and then biology, maybe in prison, who knows.

And I think right now, you hear Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries emerging, which has kind of been interesting for me because I didn't really see them on the campaign trail at all.

I didn't see, even I would say these two years, I'm always like, where are the Democrats? Where are the Democrats? What are y'all doing? It's like, oh, we're writing a strongly worded letter.

And myself and many people in my audience, millions of people in my audience have all followed a similar trajectory, which is what brought us here? What incubated this? So as we look at this post-mortem, and it's weird to call it mortem, I would call it a post-victory, you know, um, You're seeing, and I'm one of the ringleaders of this, I think we deserve better politicians than Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer to lead.

We saw them lead the opposition for the last two years, and I'm gonna give them an F on that.
okay okay so i'm gonna just take uh maybe a more a softer position than you're taking
um and not on schumer because he's very long in a tooth and i think that that that the senate could use some younger blood than than schumer um there's a thing that's happening with jeffrey state is a is different, it is the Obama thing, it is the first thing.
And when any person's a first, first woman, first gay, first black, whatever, They don't have the privilege of legacy.

I was bothered by all of the above because I think there has been a cultural rot that Republican politics have incubated long before Donald Trump came around to demonize and scapegoat people so that white rich men could fleece them more.

And I really fundamentally believe that none of us are free until all of us are free.

And I think that we have to, after Donald Trump, biology at some point will take care of him, term limits and then biology, maybe in prison, who knows.

And I think right now, you hear Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries emerging, which has kind of been interesting for me because I didn't really see them on the campaign trail at all.

I didn't see, even I would say these two years, I'm always like, where are the Democrats? Where are the Democrats? What are y'all doing? It's like, oh, we're writing a strongly worded letter.

And myself and many people in my audience, millions of people in my audience have all followed a similar trajectory, which is what brought us here? What incubated this? So as we look at this post-mortem, and it's weird to call it mortem, I would call it a post-victory, you know, um, You're seeing, and I'm one of the ringleaders of this, I think we deserve better politicians than Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer to lead.

We saw them lead the opposition for the last two years, and I'm gonna give them an F on that.
okay okay so i'm gonna just take uh maybe a more a softer position than you're taking
um and not on schumer because he's very long in a tooth and i think that that that the senate could use some younger blood than than schumer um there's a thing that's happening with jeffrey state is a is different, it is the Obama thing, it is the first thing.
And when any person's a first, first woman, first gay, first black, whatever, They don't have the privilege of legacy.
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