Trumpism

Can you say more about how you think the threat of Trump is affecting? Do you mean either or both of the fights that are happening, either the fight between the Democratic establishment and the emergent left or among leftists?

I think it's both because I think, you know, the concrete reality of Trumpism, of the fascists who have seized control of the government.

And what that has unleashed, what it has revealed, the suffering that is been amplified and deepened.

And, you know, we talked last time in our conversation about how do we respond to suffering? You know, and my response, I think if I recall correctly, is that my aim is to minimize it.

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It does look to me, observing this from London as I am this month, it looks to me as though Trumpism is unraveling pretty quickly.

The Iran war is intractable, no matter how much the sort of cheerleaders keep saying it isn't.

Well, he's beaten Iran 50 times, I think.

And of course, all polls show that he's lost them again since then.

But, uh, even if we stop the clock at twenty twenty four, what are the rules here exactly? Was, was anyone claiming that, you know, like, like was anyone doing what Bhatia did and claiming as she did that Trumpism served working class interests, just lying or hypocritical in 2016 and 2020, but telling the truth in 2024? I mean, you know, if you go with the rules that Bhatia wants to play for, uh, from when she's denouncing the DSA, you know, then I guess in 2016 we would have to say that the politics with the claim to, uh, represent the working class would actually be the technocratic centrist liberalism of Hillary Clinton.

Um, I point out right in the article that many successful union organizing campaigns start with organizers who themselves come from middle class backgrounds.

Even in the early stages though, when only a small minority of workers have been c- convinced to sign union cards, it would ring untrue to dismiss the unionization campaign as falsely claiming to be a pro-worker effort.

So there are some really dangerous confidence currencies.

I think, for example, the Trumpism movement is an incredibly dangerous form of confidence currency.

I agree.

Yeah.

How to get your confidence back.

from let's say whatever, but to know that it's not necessarily real.

The problem with Trumpism as far as I can tell, I'll give you an example.

I've been to a death metal concert.

And that's what... kind of drove his his like deep sense of of of grievance that made him uh you know a a vital advisor to two of the most controversial political figures of the last century in american life you know mccarthy mccarthy and trump it's it's a it's a it's not as massive a tome as american prometheus led to oppenheimer it's more digestible but it's it's it's very good

Another prominent figure at the convention was the vice president and heir apparent to Trumpism, Vice President J.D. Vance.

His speech was all over the map.

He was like, he started out as a scripture-quoting, doting father of a newborn.

We cannot let the ADL forget that they have not denounce this.

And after Trumpism five years from now, people should be bringing that up to them.

I want to hear somebody say they're sorry, because it is absolutely gratuitous and awful.

And as somebody, and you know this already, that I went through it as it relates to Gaza for my beliefs when I was working at the Southern Poverty Law Center.

The only thing he forgot, Dr. Paul, was to again say that it never would have started if he were president.

When it started, just more Trumpisms.

The reason why the war continues is simply because the U.S. and its allies are backing up Ukraine with money and weapons and intelligence information.

If the U.S. would stop backing Ukraine, the war would be over probably in a day or a week.

So this is just a domestic political ploy.

He's gotten elected in the first place over his anti-Trumpism.

And now he's further boosting his popularity by moving away from Trump to the European Union.

But it's only pretend.

religion the archbishops of those churches the catholic church anglican church baptist church united church put out a statement condemning the strike interference from religion was significant and fred nile from the national civic council who was an mp in new south wales in that time wrote a full article about me accused me of being a member of the tamil tigers i don't even come from sri lanka And he declared that the Tamil Tigers were running the nurses' union.

Sort of a bit of Hansonism and Trumpism comes through, you know, when you listen to the crap that comes across.

But anyway, you put up with that time, I tell you.

So the role of the left during the strike, there were five of us who were considered left.