Joe ToscanoGuest
Kip KnippelHost
So when, I mean, working with these Google products that are used by billions of people, I mean, what did you learn or see about how technology shapes human behavior that most people never see? Good question.

They, I shouldn't say you, they don't make any decisions unless it positively increases the bottom line.


that was their automated version and the manual version being merged back then, right? And doing the marketing site.

And my boss came up to me, handed me the marketing site and said, look at this now, this is what we're working on.

And he said, you see that big blue button up at the top corner? So they've tested that 40 plus different ways, different colors.

Learned the business, you know, of the internet, the business of, you know, how to make change in an organization.

Don't just speak about what is like the best for usage or like how is it going to convert? And those were conflicting to me, right? Sometimes there's better ways to make the experience for the user, but it's better for business to do a different thing.


And like, so just how do you make design patterns that are globally accessible? And, um, without getting in the weeds of it, like I started to study like hieroglyphics and emojis, right.

So when, I mean, working with these Google products that are used by billions of people, I mean, what did you learn or see about how technology shapes human behavior that most people never see? Good question.

They, I shouldn't say you, they don't make any decisions unless it positively increases the bottom line.


that was their automated version and the manual version being merged back then, right? And doing the marketing site.

And my boss came up to me, handed me the marketing site and said, look at this now, this is what we're working on.

And he said, you see that big blue button up at the top corner? So they've tested that 40 plus different ways, different colors.

Learned the business, you know, of the internet, the business of, you know, how to make change in an organization.

Don't just speak about what is like the best for usage or like how is it going to convert? And those were conflicting to me, right? Sometimes there's better ways to make the experience for the user, but it's better for business to do a different thing.


And like, so just how do you make design patterns that are globally accessible? And, um, without getting in the weeds of it, like I started to study like hieroglyphics and emojis, right.
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