Sep 9, 2026 · 58 min · 13 segments
In this episode of the Win Or Lose Podcast, Luke & Greg recap Washington State’s impressive Apple Cup performance and look ahead to the Cougars’ upcoming road matchup against Kansas State. The…
Greg WoodsGuestLukeHostYeah, and I thought like as far as the game plan goes and like preparedness, like I was telling, like m- my map to success, were you here in '22 when they played at Wisconsin or that was the year before you got here?
And he wasn't, like he threw two picks and I was like, just kind of an ugly game and they just found a way with turnovers.
And so my whole thing was-
... you know, you gotta win the turnover battle or at least be even, and they didn't and so they lost.
I thought had you been 2-2 in turnovers and they had a chance for a pick and a fumble, maybe you could've flipped the game that way.
But for that to be the margin, I think they should feel really good about.
I think they should feel good about that they were that close in the game.
And you have to like, people expect so much of teams 'cause it's like everyone wants to succeed right away now.
It's, it's a first time head coach.
It's a young-
... first time offensive coordinator.
Like I know he played there last year, but it, that's just a lot to ask of them in one week.
And so given all the circumstances, I, I was really, really pleasantly surprised.
I thought it could-
... could get ugly, honestly, before I, I got into the game.
I mean, the last 10 years Cougar fans have kind of been spoiled by the success that this program has enjoyed.
I mean, I just think there's like an expectation, and rightfully so, to win, 'cause that's kind of the standard that's been set the last decade or so.
Um, but you see like kind of the other side of, of how things could go and, um, it's not always guaranteed that you're gonna go to a bowl.
I mean, that's, I know, I mean you saw it in '23 just like how, how it can go south sometimes.
Yeah, and I thought like as far as the game plan goes and like preparedness, like I was telling, like m- my map to success, were you here in '22 when they played at Wisconsin or that was the year before you got here?
And he wasn't, like he threw two picks and I was like, just kind of an ugly game and they just found a way with turnovers.
And so my whole thing was-
... you know, you gotta win the turnover battle or at least be even, and they didn't and so they lost.
I thought had you been 2-2 in turnovers and they had a chance for a pick and a fumble, maybe you could've flipped the game that way.
But for that to be the margin, I think they should feel really good about.
I think they should feel good about that they were that close in the game.
And you have to like, people expect so much of teams 'cause it's like everyone wants to succeed right away now.
It's, it's a first time head coach.
It's a young-
... first time offensive coordinator.
Like I know he played there last year, but it, that's just a lot to ask of them in one week.
And so given all the circumstances, I, I was really, really pleasantly surprised.
I thought it could-
... could get ugly, honestly, before I, I got into the game.
I mean, the last 10 years Cougar fans have kind of been spoiled by the success that this program has enjoyed.
I mean, I just think there's like an expectation, and rightfully so, to win, 'cause that's kind of the standard that's been set the last decade or so.
Um, but you see like kind of the other side of, of how things could go and, um, it's not always guaranteed that you're gonna go to a bowl.
I mean, that's, I know, I mean you saw it in '23 just like how, how it can go south sometimes.
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