Visual Leadership in a Disconnected World, featuring Todd Cherches

Oh, that's beautiful.

Thank you so much, Todd.

I had a I was in a master class this morning with Laura Gossner-Otting, and she does an incredible job as a keynote speaker and gets a lot of the biggest stages and charges some of the highest fees.

And she was giving advice in this master class.

And I noticed that her slides were absolutely gorgeous with vivid colors and only pictures.

Yeah, yeah.

And and then and then so she would tell a story and have a picture.

And then if she had a framework, then she would have one word.

Right.

The second word and the third word.

And I think that's what you're saying is if you want it, you want to give a framework and then tell a story or use a metaphor, paint the picture and have that picture behind you in vivid colors of just a picture.

But the days of bullet points, are they behind us?

Unfortunately not, but they should be.

One of my secondary roles at NYU is I do faculty observation, assessment, and coaching.

So sometimes I'll sit in on other professors' classes and I'll see they're still putting up black and white slides with bullet points and reading from them line by line.

And, you know, they don't, I actually have been asked, would you have wanted to sit through the presentation you just gave? And they said, probably not.

And one of the things we always say is that PowerPoint was not invented to be a torture device.

It's supposed to be an aid in communication.

So if it's not, if it's competing with and not supporting your message, then you need to find, there's so many ways and there's so many great books out there like Nancy Duarte's book, Slidology or Gora Reynolds' book, Presentation Zen.

So there's no excuse for not.

doing a better job at how we present.

So yeah.