Marshall Goldsmith

That's awesome.

Moving a little bit after high school and into the beginning of your professional career, I'd love to actually start by talking about you being one of the first 25 coaches that was trained under Marshall Goldsmith, because I think that could have really informed the way that you approach the rest of your career, the way you approach working with clients.

And so what was that experience like and what did you learn from him that affected your approach to coaching now?

Yeah, you know, I was already established as a coach.

I'd already written The Coaching Habit when Marshall kind of tapped me on the shoulder and said, come and be part of the Marshall Goldsmith experiment.

He had this great idea, which is like, I'm going to pick 15 people, I'm going to teach them everything I know, and then they will try and do the same.

They'll spread their good word and their good wisdom as well.

But importantly for today, he's the author of The Hero Trap, which comes out about the time this show drops, the end of October.

um he's uh been a vp of sales a cmo he's had a couple exits he's had some ipos that kind of thing uh he had an article out last year hbr on the subject he's one of marshall goldsmith's 100 coaches he a lot around our world but and he's been was on our show sometime before and we've been friends joining us from up in the boston area welcome to the show bill

Hey, thanks for having me on.

I feel like I'm on Soul Train.

is that as nice and like human as he is he also could be pretty firm on things right

yeah

i we had marshall goldsmith on and he talked about a story which is it on the show or is it

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And it's actually never going to be your time until you decide that it's your time.

There's a quote from a guy called Dr. Marshall Goldsmith, and he's a performance psychologist.

And he says, if we do not create our environment, our environment creates us.

And I want you to think about the mental environment that you are planting.

She later built her own practice working with executive teams at Microsoft, Campbell Soup Company, Pandora, Metro International, and Finland's national broadcaster, YLE.

Meta is the co-author with our mutual friend, former Campbell Soup CEO Douglas Conant of Touchpoints, creating powerful leadership connections in the smallest of moments.

And she's the author of the international bestseller, The Ugly Duckling Goes to Work, translated into eight languages.

Her newest book, Leading with Aliveness, distills decades of coaching work into a framework built around five capabilities she calls the power of the pause, the power of perspective, the power of practice, the power of the pride, and the power of play.

Deliberateness.

Yeah.

Now, our friend Stephen Covey.

whom we both love very much, frequently said that it's easy to say no when a deeper yes is burning inside.

Most CEOs don't realize they've become the bottleneck inside their own success, and Rajesh lived that story himself before he solved it.

He is a CEO mentor, creator of CEO Freedom OS... which is trademarked, and a trusted advisor endorsed by Dr. Marshall Goldsmith and Dr. Ivan Misner.

For 30 years, he has helped 350 plus CEOs running $5 million to $25 million companies move from chief problem solver to strategic leader without losing control of what they built.

I'm very excited to have you here today.

But anyway, so Vern was quite influential and I brought him into other associations I was involved with to be a speaker.

There's a guy, Marshall Goldsmith.

Do you know Marshall? I know of Marshall.

Yes.

So all that needs to be slightly rewired in the unconscious, in the subconscious level.

And then you can also, my work is different from many coaches out there because they work, some work at the subconscious level, right? With hypnosis or meditations or stuff like that.

But we go to the superconscious.

We go to that rooftop and we access what is available for everybody.