Oct 20, 2026 · 41 min · 9 segments
Polarization permits an exaggerated view of opponents to be amplified by cable TV pundits, shock radio and social media making us see fellow Americans as "other". We need to step outside of these…
Wesley WarshawerGuest
Jim HerlihyHost
As you had conversations with North Dakotans, I guess if you went into diners, if you were having lunch or breakfast or what have you, were they curious about California? And what did they think of Silicon Valley if they were curious about California?
And my friend, she was thinking she couldn't get along with people there because they wouldn't accept her for her refugee past or her parents.
And I think, conversely, people there had a particular prejudice against Californians.
This was later in the trip, but I remember going to a barbecue restaurant in Alabama.
And he says, wait a minute, where's that accent from? And I kind of laughed.
And so I kind of chuckled and I said, oh, you know, right now I'm working in California.
And he said, California? Whoa, well, you can eat here if you want, but don't you bring that California socialism over here.
He's learned one data point about me, and he thinks he understands my politics.
I did try to talk to people about politics, not in an evangelic way, but just to chat with people.
As you had conversations with North Dakotans, I guess if you went into diners, if you were having lunch or breakfast or what have you, were they curious about California? And what did they think of Silicon Valley if they were curious about California?
And my friend, she was thinking she couldn't get along with people there because they wouldn't accept her for her refugee past or her parents.
And I think, conversely, people there had a particular prejudice against Californians.
This was later in the trip, but I remember going to a barbecue restaurant in Alabama.
And he says, wait a minute, where's that accent from? And I kind of laughed.
And so I kind of chuckled and I said, oh, you know, right now I'm working in California.
And he said, California? Whoa, well, you can eat here if you want, but don't you bring that California socialism over here.
He's learned one data point about me, and he thinks he understands my politics.
I did try to talk to people about politics, not in an evangelic way, but just to chat with people.
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