Kelly Patrick Show 940 Cory vs Jorge DEBATE JUDAISM VS ZIONISM

Okay, so I do not think that the problem is Judaism.

What is Judaism, right? Judaism is a religion, an identity, a culture that has been around for like 3,000 years.

And they've had many different thinkers have seen the world in different ways.

Some of them end up doing things that cause harm.

Others gave us Christianity.

One could say they gave us the Ten Commandments.

and um and we have a lot of jews like rabbi jacob shapiro there's a lot of jews that are against zionism there's a lot of jews that are against communism and uh just because for a little while the jews a lot of jews call themselves zionists and they brought zionist ideology and they really pushed it and that is causing a lot of problems i think that would be like looking at cubans right cubans have been around you know we can call cubans from the 1600s around there Then for a little while, Cubans respected private property.

We are a very prosperous country, really equal to the United States in many ways.

It's not like the Cubans were running over here until we got Castro and communism.

So Cubans had a certain identity.

Then they made a mistake.

They fooled themselves into communism.

And keep in mind that in Cuba, we hardly had any Jews, but we still fell for communism.

Then for a little while, we really fucked things.

We really fucked ourselves with communism.

And hopefully we'll overcome it and we'll go back to just being like regular Cubans or whatever.

So I want to make the same argument with Zionism.

It is true for 3,000 years the Jews have lived in various ways.

And for a little while they fooled themselves.

They were overly represented, some of them, in communism.

But it would be a mistake to say that just because they're overrepresented in communism that they plotted the whole thing.

You know, that's a mistake.

The Jews also were overrepresented in capitalism and in freedom and in free markets.

And it would be just as a mistake to give them credit for the whole thing.

So my point is that just because for a while the Cubans fooled themselves with communism, And for a while, the Jews fooled themselves with Zionism, which I agree, it is a destructive ideology.

Okay, so I do not think that the problem is Judaism.

What is Judaism, right? Judaism is a religion, an identity, a culture that has been around for like 3,000 years.

And they've had many different thinkers have seen the world in different ways.

Some of them end up doing things that cause harm.

Others gave us Christianity.

One could say they gave us the Ten Commandments.

and um and we have a lot of jews like rabbi jacob shapiro there's a lot of jews that are against zionism there's a lot of jews that are against communism and uh just because for a little while the jews a lot of jews call themselves zionists and they brought zionist ideology and they really pushed it and that is causing a lot of problems i think that would be like looking at cubans right cubans have been around you know we can call cubans from the 1600s around there Then for a little while, Cubans respected private property.

We are a very prosperous country, really equal to the United States in many ways.

It's not like the Cubans were running over here until we got Castro and communism.

So Cubans had a certain identity.

Then they made a mistake.

They fooled themselves into communism.

And keep in mind that in Cuba, we hardly had any Jews, but we still fell for communism.

Then for a little while, we really fucked things.

We really fucked ourselves with communism.

And hopefully we'll overcome it and we'll go back to just being like regular Cubans or whatever.

So I want to make the same argument with Zionism.

It is true for 3,000 years the Jews have lived in various ways.

And for a little while they fooled themselves.

They were overly represented, some of them, in communism.

But it would be a mistake to say that just because they're overrepresented in communism that they plotted the whole thing.

You know, that's a mistake.

The Jews also were overrepresented in capitalism and in freedom and in free markets.

And it would be just as a mistake to give them credit for the whole thing.

So my point is that just because for a while the Cubans fooled themselves with communism, And for a while, the Jews fooled themselves with Zionism, which I agree, it is a destructive ideology.