Aug 2, 2026 · 5 hr 27 min · 14 segments
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I'll leave it at that, not to get too much in the scheme, but we've definitely benefited, and me personally, learning every day.
When you look at the, I guess, relative inexperience for
your group, has that changed the approach compared to other years, the urgency, intensity, the toughness you're talking about?

Now, again, it might have been, like I said earlier, Austin, it might have been the 3,000-level course with Cade because he's ran that play for four years before I got him.

And, yeah, I mean, I hope the guys feel that the energy's picked up because the urgency has.

We're going to play somebody in a couple months, right? And there's got to be a tight end out there.
But it felt like year after year, there was a veteran guy next to a veteran guy next to a veteran guy.
That's the dynamic of it right now.
Does that mean you have to provide more leadership for the guys? You know what I mean? Does that have to come more from you to set the tone? Or is that just G's job, even if he's not going to hold it?

I'm not going to put it all on G, right? But again, the leaders drive the culture.

Now, whether it be G or whether it be Pat, who's been here for a long time and played a lot of football, or whether it be Will came in and say, no, this is what it should look like.

Now, again, my job as a coach is to make them hear things they don't want to hear, push them to do things they don't want to do.
was in the offensive meeting room for so many years.
Does having Chip kind of get you guys back to where you guys were with Kevin? I know that the room, as an offensive staff, you guys were kind of young last year.
Now to have Chip with that experience, is that kind of like what you guys have with Kevin?

I think the comparison is that we're talking about Kevin Wilson and Chip Kelly are two of the brightest minds in offensive football in the last several decades.

I think it's allowing Coach Day maybe to delegate to Coach Kelly and let him be the best version of himself.

Coach Kelly's been an awesome leader of driving us and listening and providing input.

I don't know if it's exactly like it was with Coach Wilson, but It feels great however it is right
now.
Was there initially a bigger role expected for Jelani in the Cotton Bowl and did that not get to come to fruition as much as the way that game played out?

You know, I don't remember exactly what, you know, the expectation was he was going to help contribute.

And certainly we wanted him to contribute from the jump and keep him in there contributing.
forward.
Did you guys see things from him during the bowl prep that was a step forward at all?
If you are painting an ideal situation for the fall, what does the depth look like in terms of how many guys you'll trust?

Hopefully we can play 13 personnel, 14 personnel, and I got guys out there that are going to go wreak some havoc.

Right now I'm worried about Thursday's practice being the toughest dudes on the field.
Are you seeing enough of that to feel comfortable saying that that can happen by
Yeah,

Special teams comes down to technique and effort and that's the ultimate test of the brotherhood, and no one signed up to be a Buckeye, to be on punt return.
in that.
You guys were thinking about putting Jelani in and maybe having a bigger role.
What does he give you guys that would make a huge difference?

I mean, he had more time, right, just because we have that whole month of kind of December for development.

And, you know, the bull prep's a lot like spring ball in that he has those three or four weeks, you know, to get the reps he wasn't getting during the year because Cade was taking them, right? So, with a G,
how close was that one? Did you have to start with only snaps? Did you
have a second trend that he was
going to go
good when you look at when you look at g now do you and this would be a facetious question maybe but do you see a tight end now you understand what i'm saying from a couple years ago years ago he was a you know he moved over from wide receiver and all this kind of stuff what just jumped out at you about what he brings to the tight end spot i guess

yeah

he's a tight end so he's gonna be graded like it, treated like it, so I never really...
He seems to progress big time from that.
I mean, do you feel that way, too?
Do you think that collaborative effort you guys are having on special teams? Do you think that's benefiting you guys in terms of just how you're coaching?

Dan, as you know, as far as ownership goes, right? Like, I mean, I'm not saying I wasn't invested last year, but shoot, I'm punt return and kick return.

When Coach Day brought that up, what did you think about that change? And number two, what has he told you he wants? that he wasn't getting from special teams a year ago? No, he never,

It was all about, okay, how can we be, this is again, Ohio state, like whatever the janitorial staff supposed to be the best in the country.

So I got to work with coach Hartline and, Coach Keyes and everyone else, learning the scheme and techniques, and now we've got to put it on the field.
But do you find yourself studying punt returns? Oh, yeah.
I mean, how are you doing your prep work, I guess? Oh, yeah,

Coach Hart, Coach Keyes, Dinks, Gunner, I mean, we locked ourselves in a room for a week there, and I don't think I did any offense.
Do you already have pretty good knowledge of the return game, or did you have to, like, start from scratch?

I mean, it's all ball, and that's the coolest thing about special teams is, If you're on special teams, it's going to make you better tight end.
We talked a lot about Pat
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