Oct 8, 2026 · 43 min · 13 segments
**Matt Melvin** is an author, speaker, and experienced industrial sales professional with more than 20 years of experience building relationships and helping others succeed. He is the author of…
And so why do you think there is that stigma? with you know i guess straight males being friends or associating with other people do you find that there is a like there is
yeah i think because i've seen this in different men's groups i've also been a part of some guys think if i'm with a gay guy i'm gonna be gay it it it it doesn't make sense to the rational thinking
person.
That is true because I've had friends ever since high school.
I actually had a friend, a really good friend of mine, and he got into this whole, you know, dressing up thing and he would have birthday parties at these clubs and I would go with his sister and his mom and, you know, people would always question me.
And I said, but I know who I am, you know, I'm not afraid.
You know, so I could go into these spaces.
I can talk to these people.
I'm not worried about anything.
Why do you think that people have that fear that by talking to them, they're going to turn a certain way or...
Because they don't know
I guess when you eliminate that, then it doesn't matter what people think or how they perceive you or, you know, it's about you.
You know as a person who you are and who you're not and people could say whatever they want.
Nowadays with the internet, you have that all over the place.
People can just, you know, maybe just see a picture of you and make up their mind.
Oh, it happens all the time, yes.
And so do you think this is something that, you know, people are going to get past or more and more people are going to get past to where that's just the norm? People could get along with other people without issues or? No,
I think we're at such a divided state and people just thrive and creating chaos that I don't think it's going to get any better.
And so why do you think there is that stigma? with you know i guess straight males being friends or associating with other people do you find that there is a like there is
yeah i think because i've seen this in different men's groups i've also been a part of some guys think if i'm with a gay guy i'm gonna be gay it it it it doesn't make sense to the rational thinking
person.
That is true because I've had friends ever since high school.
I actually had a friend, a really good friend of mine, and he got into this whole, you know, dressing up thing and he would have birthday parties at these clubs and I would go with his sister and his mom and, you know, people would always question me.
And I said, but I know who I am, you know, I'm not afraid.
You know, so I could go into these spaces.
I can talk to these people.
I'm not worried about anything.
Why do you think that people have that fear that by talking to them, they're going to turn a certain way or...
Because they don't know
I guess when you eliminate that, then it doesn't matter what people think or how they perceive you or, you know, it's about you.
You know as a person who you are and who you're not and people could say whatever they want.
Nowadays with the internet, you have that all over the place.
People can just, you know, maybe just see a picture of you and make up their mind.
Oh, it happens all the time, yes.
And so do you think this is something that, you know, people are going to get past or more and more people are going to get past to where that's just the norm? People could get along with other people without issues or? No,
I think we're at such a divided state and people just thrive and creating chaos that I don't think it's going to get any better.
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