Aug 31, 2026 · 42 min · 10 segments
Rabbi Ken Spiro and Ellie Bass discuss the history of truth, and how the idea of facts and ultimate truth are more new than we think. **Want the full story? Start from episode one.** As Winston…
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in, and that's the world where Judaism evolved, and that's the world where most people who listen to this podcast are in.

We think truth is recognition of absolutes, whether they're in physical reality or ideological, moral, economic, you know.

The idea that truth is these measurable, quantifiable, provable, empirical facts that have evidence behind them and therefore they're incontrovertible.

I think that's a lot of what Western discourse is around when we talk about truth.

Right, and out of that comes edges of good and evil, you know, that there's absolutes.

The irony is, of course, fast forward thousands of years after all this was in play, and this is, we have to go back literally, you know, thousands of years to talk about this.

I'm not talking about just political things, like you get in debate about the Israel-Palestinian conflict, and people tell me those are your facts, as if there's different kinds of facts.

But that people argue about even truths on a biological level, the debate about what's a woman.

But I think it's a good place to kind of go back and maybe do a fast run through like, what's the history of truth in Western thought? So I think to kind of set the stage, we have to understand that throughout human history, people have always been, doesn't matter where they are in the world, religious.

in, and that's the world where Judaism evolved, and that's the world where most people who listen to this podcast are in.

We think truth is recognition of absolutes, whether they're in physical reality or ideological, moral, economic, you know.

The idea that truth is these measurable, quantifiable, provable, empirical facts that have evidence behind them and therefore they're incontrovertible.

I think that's a lot of what Western discourse is around when we talk about truth.

Right, and out of that comes edges of good and evil, you know, that there's absolutes.

The irony is, of course, fast forward thousands of years after all this was in play, and this is, we have to go back literally, you know, thousands of years to talk about this.

I'm not talking about just political things, like you get in debate about the Israel-Palestinian conflict, and people tell me those are your facts, as if there's different kinds of facts.

But that people argue about even truths on a biological level, the debate about what's a woman.

But I think it's a good place to kind of go back and maybe do a fast run through like, what's the history of truth in Western thought? So I think to kind of set the stage, we have to understand that throughout human history, people have always been, doesn't matter where they are in the world, religious.
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