Jun 10, 2026 · 2 hr 10 min · 12 segments
In this episode, Steve sits down with John Copeland, CEO of Kenneth Copeland Ministries and the only son of Kenneth and Gloria Copeland. John takes us on an extraordinarily raw journey, sharing like…
John CopelandGuest
Steve HolmstromHost
Yeah, I told your staff you didn't have to wear a suit to be on Kingdom BS.
But when you're like looking at it and it's like, "Okay, well, this is cheaper than that," um-You go back to ha- having to, like, watch what you spend and do, like, you realize what you don't need.
You know, when I was making a good paycheck, you got the kids, and you get the bigger house, and you take the trips, and you do all these things.
... you know, and all this stuff and, you know, Gucci shoes or whatever, and it's like, don't need any of that.
Yeah, I told your staff you didn't have to wear a suit to be on Kingdom BS.
But when you're like looking at it and it's like, "Okay, well, this is cheaper than that," um-You go back to ha- having to, like, watch what you spend and do, like, you realize what you don't need.
You know, when I was making a good paycheck, you got the kids, and you get the bigger house, and you take the trips, and you do all these things.
... you know, and all this stuff and, you know, Gucci shoes or whatever, and it's like, don't need any of that.
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