Dope Popes (w/ Matt Sitman)

I'm good.

Sure you are.

That was convincing.

Yeah, we're all pretty bummed with the Graham Platner collapse this week.

We should be clear, we're not bummed that he's dropping out of the race.

I'm not bummed on his behalf.

No, yes.

But we've discussed Graham Platner a few times on this podcast positively as an example of the kind of populist approach that the Democratic Party needs if it's going to stand up to fascism.

It feels like a topic we should discuss that's worth delving into a little bit about what happened and what the lessons are.

That's not what this episode is.

We have an episode for this week, but we just want listeners to know.

We're going to talk about a little bit more because it's interesting.

I'm like pissed off about the whole thing.

Because, yeah, people put a lot of time and money and effort into this.

And it feels like a gut punch.

And it's worth discussing how and why and what next and everything.

Yeah.

So we'll have a whole conversation.

We need

Smucker there for that

conversation.

He's not here this week.

He's got full dissertation deadline mode.