Dodged Debates, Border Oranges & Hometown Heroes (10-16-26)

Now, Hayden and Titus are involved at the Turning Point USA chapter at North Dakota State.

They're in charge of it, Hayden being the president, Titus being the vice

president.

Something I wanted to ask you guys a while ago – actually, Hayden, before I even ask that question, last time you and I were on here, you told me there was a potential debate happening between you and – was it the college Democrat guy or the socialist Democrat guy? Which one was it?

So – I've been trying to do this for a couple years because we had a couple debates against the college Democrats, and they're really fun.

And alas, they decided they didn't want to do them anymore.

They were like, no, we're not going to do them anymore.

They came up with their reasons.

A lot of it was just like, you guys are mean people.

You argue in bad faith.

Blah, blah, blah, blah,

blah.

Whatever.

And I was like, that's sad.

I wanted to do more of them.

The student body loved them.

Hundreds of people came to them.

And then this year, I finally goaded them into doing it again.

They have a new chapter president.

And I had like – he was in our DM – well, in our comment sections on Instagram talking mad crap about socialism.

And I was like, wow, Joey, you have all these opinions about socialism now.

Let's go – let's do the debate on it.

Like, come on.

I don't want you to chicken out like last time.

And then he was like, well, I don't want to debate things that I'm not knowledgeable on.

Now, Hayden and Titus are involved at the Turning Point USA chapter at North Dakota State.

They're in charge of it, Hayden being the president, Titus being the vice

president.

Something I wanted to ask you guys a while ago – actually, Hayden, before I even ask that question, last time you and I were on here, you told me there was a potential debate happening between you and – was it the college Democrat guy or the socialist Democrat guy? Which one was it?

So – I've been trying to do this for a couple years because we had a couple debates against the college Democrats, and they're really fun.

And alas, they decided they didn't want to do them anymore.

They were like, no, we're not going to do them anymore.

They came up with their reasons.

A lot of it was just like, you guys are mean people.

You argue in bad faith.

Blah, blah, blah, blah,

blah.

Whatever.

And I was like, that's sad.

I wanted to do more of them.

The student body loved them.

Hundreds of people came to them.

And then this year, I finally goaded them into doing it again.

They have a new chapter president.

And I had like – he was in our DM – well, in our comment sections on Instagram talking mad crap about socialism.

And I was like, wow, Joey, you have all these opinions about socialism now.

Let's go – let's do the debate on it.

Like, come on.

I don't want you to chicken out like last time.

And then he was like, well, I don't want to debate things that I'm not knowledgeable on.