Saying No to Beyoncé
First, Amy recalls an unexpected investment offer.
Undefinable: An AAGC Originals Podcast
Jul 8, 2026 · 55 min · 11 segments
In this episode, Kara sits down with Amy Liu to talk about building Tower 28, the lessons she's learned as an entrepreneur, the importance of representation, and why women need to have more…

... would you mind just going into it, ooh, a little bit, about the name, all the things?

And really, the idea there was I wanted to make a brand that was safe for sensitive skin.

Um, and I always thought of the beach as this place where everybody got to enjoy a clean and healthy lifestyle.

The- Tower 28 is a real lifeguard tower, and that was really where I was going to meet my friends.

And the true story is I got a text one day from a friend who was like, "We're all going to the beach.

Meet me at Tower 28." And I was like, wait, is that it? Like, the beach is this place that you see every single kind of person, uh, age, uh, culture, demogra- you know, socioeconomics.

... would you mind just going into it, ooh, a little bit, about the name, all the things?

And really, the idea there was I wanted to make a brand that was safe for sensitive skin.

Um, and I always thought of the beach as this place where everybody got to enjoy a clean and healthy lifestyle.

The- Tower 28 is a real lifeguard tower, and that was really where I was going to meet my friends.

And the true story is I got a text one day from a friend who was like, "We're all going to the beach.

Meet me at Tower 28." And I was like, wait, is that it? Like, the beach is this place that you see every single kind of person, uh, age, uh, culture, demogra- you know, socioeconomics.
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Saying No to Beyoncé
First, Amy recalls an unexpected investment offer.
From Number Two to Leader
Amy confronts her fear of leadership today.
Passing on Anthropic
She recalls missing out on tech riches.
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