Mar 24, 2026 · 40 min · 22 segments
For the first episode of our second season, Katie sits down with fellow journalist MS Now’s *All In* Chris Hayes, to talk about covering the news and capturing attention during an all-consuming news…
Katie DrummondHost
Lately, there's been a lot of talk from powerful and influential men, especially on X, who aren't happy with me and what Wired's doing right now.

I'd like to have some of them on the show this season, but for a palate cleanser, we're gonna start with another powerful man and fellow journalist who isn't mad, at least not at me.

For many TV viewers in the US, Chris Hayes has become a familiar face and voice in the evening news cycle.

For over a decade, he's hosted All In with Chris Hayes, the evening news show on MSNBC, nowadays known as MS Now.

The show covers the latest news, and if you hadn't noticed, there's been no shortage of that this year.
Tonight, despite the brutal cold, a massive crowd of anti-ICE protesters flooding downtown Minneapolis.
The Department of Justice releasing its remaining documents from the Jeffrey Epstein investigation.
The US and Israel have launched strikes on Iran, targeting its leadership and escalating tensions across the Middle East.

We're in this moment where everything feels incessantly urgent at the same time, all of it, all at once, piling on top of itself, partially because we live in this deluge of information and opinion and, of course, because we are in yet another Trump news cycle.

Few people are better at cutting through the noise and distilling what really matters than Chris.

Lately, there's been a lot of talk from powerful and influential men, especially on X, who aren't happy with me and what Wired's doing right now.

I'd like to have some of them on the show this season, but for a palate cleanser, we're gonna start with another powerful man and fellow journalist who isn't mad, at least not at me.

For many TV viewers in the US, Chris Hayes has become a familiar face and voice in the evening news cycle.

For over a decade, he's hosted All In with Chris Hayes, the evening news show on MSNBC, nowadays known as MS Now.

The show covers the latest news, and if you hadn't noticed, there's been no shortage of that this year.
Tonight, despite the brutal cold, a massive crowd of anti-ICE protesters flooding downtown Minneapolis.
The Department of Justice releasing its remaining documents from the Jeffrey Epstein investigation.
The US and Israel have launched strikes on Iran, targeting its leadership and escalating tensions across the Middle East.

We're in this moment where everything feels incessantly urgent at the same time, all of it, all at once, piling on top of itself, partially because we live in this deluge of information and opinion and, of course, because we are in yet another Trump news cycle.

Few people are better at cutting through the noise and distilling what really matters than Chris.
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