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OK, well, how do we how do we build out on affinity? How do we build on fandom and kind of figure out a way to retain some of that owned and operated consumer base? And it's apps like we're going back to apps.

And I just thought it was really interesting listening to Katie Drummond.

She talked to friends of the show, Sarah and Carrie over at Axios about like this not needing to be a scale play.

It's not going to be the daily scale.

I want a dumb phone, right? Like, they're just saying, like, I don't necessarily want to be here.

So there are constraints on the strategy.

I think if you listen to what Rebecca Cutler from MS Now told you, if you listen to what Katie Drummond says, like the idea of going in small makes it less of a big deal if it fails because it's like, all right, well, the product we invested in it didn't work out, but we're not hinging everything on it.

I think, though, if you're going to build it out, you kind of have to pull a Meredith and find ways to invest subtly or not totally, but like significantly, but at low cost.

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You know, and then you have great, a lot of the reporters are women, like Zoe Schiffer, who was involved in this.

The Wired, I'm like, oh my God, Katie Drummond of Wired is in it.

It's a lot, and Sam, oh, what's his name? Sam, I don't know.

who had turned who they had they had a not sam altman but they had a uh sam harris is in it quite good um there's a lot of people who like sam was close to elon and then watched the decline of his mental state and i thought was great i think i think i i wonder if people watch four hours of it um

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