579. Trump’s Public Execution Order and Burnham’s Brexit Intervention

[whooshing sound]

There's so much goes on in Trump land that sort of turns our heads.

Um, the other thing was fresh sanctions on the International Criminal Court.

He was obviously very, very upset, not only that he didn't win the Nobel Peace Prize, but it was given to a woman of color from South Africa, whereas you know if you're Donald Trump or Elon Musk, the only people to be concerned about there are the p- poor persecuted white South Africans, and this is a woman who has fought for justice, the rule of law, and all of the things that he doesn't believe in.

And then the other thing is this extraordinary story about members of his family who've been involved in this attempted interference with the elections in Bosnia.

So there's so much stuff going on.

Oh, and then the other one that I forgot was, of course, um, him coming out in favor of these young men as part of a university frat club who are being...

some of whom are being pursued for rape charges because, uh, a woman that he now calls a dog is involved in the prosecution case against them.

So I th- I agree with you.

I mean, I've, I've...

I'm up in Scotland, and I've just been talking to an event where there were Americans there as well as Europeans, and I think I find it impossible now to talk about Trump without really getting offended that we even have to talk about him so much because he's so poisonous, so damaging to so many of the things that I think most British people care about, and yet there he is.

We're coming up to the midterms.

The, the thing with the diesel, I mean, if he'd have done a deal with Canada- He could have got more diesel cheaper.

But of course, Canada is an enemy because it doesn't want to play his silly fifty-first state game.

The amount of diesel that he's actually getting out of Putin is, I think it will last about fourteen hours in the American economy.

It's not that big a deal.

So you've sold out, you've upset the Indians, because don't forget, it's not that long ago Trump was sort of talking about sanctions on India because they were taking Russian diesel and helping keep the Russian economy afloat.

So this is all just mad, crazy stuff.

Just quickly, I mean, uh, just g- wh- while you're on a roll, um, and maybe you're about to say this, we were with Kellyanne Conway last week, who people will remember was Trump's campaign manager in twenty sixteen, and like many of his closest allies, a frequent appearer on Fox News, in which she got really angry with both of us, and I think particularly with you, for suggesting that, uh, Trump was not fully supportive of Ukraine and Zelensky.

Mm.

And told this extraordinary story saying, you know, he told Putin where to get off, and he'd been, uh, you know, he'd been very supportive of Zelensky since he keeps saying nice things about him.

So just sort of develop that for a bit and what you felt listening to Kellyanne Conway and that whole account from the Trump administration of them being pro-Ukraine.

Well, at one point, she accused me of being Trump Derangement Syndrome level five, and I proudly said, "No, I'm much worse than that.

I'm at least level six or seven." It was a pretty...

I find it like a, almost like a sort of out-of-body experience because I thought we were talking about parallel universes.