The Practice Experience Podcast
Sep 16, 2026 · 50 min · 7 segments
Hiring great clinicians is difficult. Building a practice where they want to stay takes even more. What makes a workplace stand out to today's physical therapists? And once you've built a great team…
Brian HartzGuest
Heidi JannengaHost
So I've been in practice now 24 years built from, you know, very small ground up to now six clinics.

So it's been a passion of mine to build company culture and also build engagement, both out of necessity to try and help me, you know, retain staff, attract new staff and just to succeed in our market.

So I, probably about halfway along my journey, I kind of had this premonition that company culture and employee engagement are not the same thing.

A lot of practice owners and business owners, just not in medicine, but other fields are making right now.

And we all do, especially in my practice as well, do specific activities to build company culture, but that doesn't necessarily equate to building employee engagement.

I think there, there, significantly different, and you need to treat them both a little bit differently as well.

Okay, well, let's start with your definition then of employee engagement versus employee culture.

When I speak on employee engagement, that's the question I like to ask my audience and just get their opinion.

If you pin me down and say, hey, Bri, what's the definition? I think it's If your employees are 100% bought into your mission of your business and helping you achieve your goals, that's an engaged employee.

And can you tell which one of your employees is not engaged? And I think that's a real easy task.

And I know when I help other businesses go through this, it doesn't take you long to determine which of your employees may not be fully engaged.

even though you don't have a great definition of it, most of us realize who those people are.

And now the fact is, how can we get them engaged in what we need to do? You know, you talked about happy hours and doing team building activities.

But I think those things tend to become expected perks maybe of your team and of your staff.

So I don't know that that's truly driving employee engagement, how we want to see it or define it.

So if it's a bit intangible, what are some ways that you can actually measure success? Like how do you know, to your point, like you could look at a few different employees, like what is the difference between an engaged employee and an unengaged employee?

So I've been in practice now 24 years built from, you know, very small ground up to now six clinics.

So it's been a passion of mine to build company culture and also build engagement, both out of necessity to try and help me, you know, retain staff, attract new staff and just to succeed in our market.

So I, probably about halfway along my journey, I kind of had this premonition that company culture and employee engagement are not the same thing.

A lot of practice owners and business owners, just not in medicine, but other fields are making right now.

And we all do, especially in my practice as well, do specific activities to build company culture, but that doesn't necessarily equate to building employee engagement.

I think there, there, significantly different, and you need to treat them both a little bit differently as well.

Okay, well, let's start with your definition then of employee engagement versus employee culture.

When I speak on employee engagement, that's the question I like to ask my audience and just get their opinion.

If you pin me down and say, hey, Bri, what's the definition? I think it's If your employees are 100% bought into your mission of your business and helping you achieve your goals, that's an engaged employee.

And can you tell which one of your employees is not engaged? And I think that's a real easy task.

And I know when I help other businesses go through this, it doesn't take you long to determine which of your employees may not be fully engaged.

even though you don't have a great definition of it, most of us realize who those people are.

And now the fact is, how can we get them engaged in what we need to do? You know, you talked about happy hours and doing team building activities.

But I think those things tend to become expected perks maybe of your team and of your staff.

So I don't know that that's truly driving employee engagement, how we want to see it or define it.

So if it's a bit intangible, what are some ways that you can actually measure success? Like how do you know, to your point, like you could look at a few different employees, like what is the difference between an engaged employee and an unengaged employee?
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