Oct 10, 2026 · 1 hr 5 min · 10 segments
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And, uh, his point to, to start is that, um, avarice as a spiritual ailment or a spiritual missing the mark is not so much about, uh, literal greed, but, um, uh, sometimes greed for learning and for glory.
There he is quoting "The Canterbury Tales." Um, but furthermore, he says, "If the gesture of anger is to run over, that of avarice is one of holding back and holding in." He does an interesting thing here with his chapters.
Uh, so he goes from the one to the five, and these are two axes or, or two ends of the anal axis.
And so he does a lot of comparing here between the one and the five, two anal types.
So while anger expresses greed in an assertive, even though unacknowledged way, greed and avarice manifests only through retentiveness, you know, retentive.
This is a f- you know, uh, uh, uh, the, the angry type is not anal retentive in the same sense.
Um, this is a fearful grasping implying a fantasy that letting go would result in catastrophic depletion.
Behind the hoarding impulse there is, we may say, an experience of impending impoverishment.
So he's not gonna go deep into Freud, uh, I don't believe in this chapter, but I, I do think there's something to be said about, uh, grounding us in the anal, anal retentive bec- because it just takes us right into the body, right? Right into a holding back, a holding in for fear of what would happen if there were release.
But I just like that it brings us into the body, which is gonna be really critical over and over again for the five, uh, because the five is such an intellectual type and, uh, there's so much rich intellectual material here.
Um, we have to get back into the body, back into this, uh, retentiveness, um, right there at the, at the root.
Because of an excessive resignation in regard to love and people precisely, there is a compensatory clutching at oneself which may or may not manifest in a grasping onto possessions, but involves a much more generalized hold over one's inner life as well as an economy of effort and resources.
The holding back and self-control of avarice is not unlike that of the anger type, yet it is accompanied by a getting stuck through clutching at the present without openness to the emerging future." Um, so this starts to get into the dynamics, the psychodynamics of the five.
There's simultaneously a holding on to what little one has and a letting go, um, giving up of, of everything else.
Just as it can be said of the wrath-wrathful type that they're mostly unconscious of their anger and that their anger is their main taboo, it may be said of the avaricious that their avarice is mostly unconscious, while consciously they may feel every gesture of possession and drawing up of boundaries as forbidden.
It might be said that the avaricious is internally perfectionistic rather than critical of the outer world.
And, uh, his point to, to start is that, um, avarice as a spiritual ailment or a spiritual missing the mark is not so much about, uh, literal greed, but, um, uh, sometimes greed for learning and for glory.
There he is quoting "The Canterbury Tales." Um, but furthermore, he says, "If the gesture of anger is to run over, that of avarice is one of holding back and holding in." He does an interesting thing here with his chapters.
Uh, so he goes from the one to the five, and these are two axes or, or two ends of the anal axis.
And so he does a lot of comparing here between the one and the five, two anal types.
So while anger expresses greed in an assertive, even though unacknowledged way, greed and avarice manifests only through retentiveness, you know, retentive.
This is a f- you know, uh, uh, uh, the, the angry type is not anal retentive in the same sense.
Um, this is a fearful grasping implying a fantasy that letting go would result in catastrophic depletion.
Behind the hoarding impulse there is, we may say, an experience of impending impoverishment.
So he's not gonna go deep into Freud, uh, I don't believe in this chapter, but I, I do think there's something to be said about, uh, grounding us in the anal, anal retentive bec- because it just takes us right into the body, right? Right into a holding back, a holding in for fear of what would happen if there were release.
But I just like that it brings us into the body, which is gonna be really critical over and over again for the five, uh, because the five is such an intellectual type and, uh, there's so much rich intellectual material here.
Um, we have to get back into the body, back into this, uh, retentiveness, um, right there at the, at the root.
Because of an excessive resignation in regard to love and people precisely, there is a compensatory clutching at oneself which may or may not manifest in a grasping onto possessions, but involves a much more generalized hold over one's inner life as well as an economy of effort and resources.
The holding back and self-control of avarice is not unlike that of the anger type, yet it is accompanied by a getting stuck through clutching at the present without openness to the emerging future." Um, so this starts to get into the dynamics, the psychodynamics of the five.
There's simultaneously a holding on to what little one has and a letting go, um, giving up of, of everything else.
Just as it can be said of the wrath-wrathful type that they're mostly unconscious of their anger and that their anger is their main taboo, it may be said of the avaricious that their avarice is mostly unconscious, while consciously they may feel every gesture of possession and drawing up of boundaries as forbidden.
It might be said that the avaricious is internally perfectionistic rather than critical of the outer world.
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