Target Intelligence: PSYOP with Shawn Ryan
Jun 9, 2026 · 1 hr 53 min · 13 segments
NOTE: If you like Target Intelligence: PSYOP with Shawn Ryan check out this IRONCLAD Original documentary about UAP Disclosure, "Change Agents: BLACK PROJECT: Disclosure, the Truth About UFOs & Secret…
Andy StumpfHost
Nick CookGuest
Richard DolanGuest
Vinnie AdamsGuest
Chrissy NewtonGuest
Tim BurchettGuestRyan GravesGuestLook at that thing.
It's rotating.

We hear from experts, whistleblowers, and insiders to try to figure out if our government is behind these strange craft.

Insofar as the modern sort of sightings era for UAP, I think really did start in World War II.

For more than a century, it has been the premier outlet covering the defense industry, aerospace, military contractors, and aviation innovation.

The role at Jane's gave him nearly unparalleled access to not only defense and military officials, but also third-party industry contractors like Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman, and others.

After years of seeing highly advanced aerospace innovations firsthand and hearing rumors of secretive anti-gravity programs, Cook became curious.

Could UAPs actually be evidence of black projects working on developing advanced propulsion systems? He began by investigating when military officials first started to discuss crafts that behaved in unexplainable ways.

Encounters with Foo Fighters, as Cook notes, were a strangely common occurrence in World War II.

It does look like, uh, from the 1940s onward, US military high command was in fact very interested in this problem, even though they said they weren't.

That's renowned UAP researcher and author Richard Dolan discussing the sightings around the time of World War II.

So you go through the early documents and ask yourself, "What were they saying about it?" And you discover, oh, there was actually quite a few declassified FOIA, uh, military reports that describe pretty fascinating encounters.

Pi- air force pilots encountering solar white discs that fly under their plane, and the pilot feels a bump as it goes underneath.

Or a CIA memo to the director of the CIA from his head of scientific intelligence in 1952 that says, "Sightings of unexplained objects at high altitudes and speeds, high speeds in the vicinity of sensitive US installations are of such nature that they are not attributable to natural phenomena or known types of aerial vehicles." That's a pretty straightforward statement.

And, you know, when you read enough of these, you start to think the public persona of these, these flying saucers is very different than what was being discussed within the classified world.

The more Nick looked into World War II reports, the more he became drawn into diving deeper.

I was actually very reluctant to get drawn into the whole kind of Nazi flying saucer mythos because I came from a very, [laughs] I like to think respectable, uh, a- aerospace and defense background.
Look at that thing.
It's rotating.

We hear from experts, whistleblowers, and insiders to try to figure out if our government is behind these strange craft.

Insofar as the modern sort of sightings era for UAP, I think really did start in World War II.

For more than a century, it has been the premier outlet covering the defense industry, aerospace, military contractors, and aviation innovation.

The role at Jane's gave him nearly unparalleled access to not only defense and military officials, but also third-party industry contractors like Lockheed Martin, Raytheon, Northrop Grumman, and others.

After years of seeing highly advanced aerospace innovations firsthand and hearing rumors of secretive anti-gravity programs, Cook became curious.

Could UAPs actually be evidence of black projects working on developing advanced propulsion systems? He began by investigating when military officials first started to discuss crafts that behaved in unexplainable ways.

Encounters with Foo Fighters, as Cook notes, were a strangely common occurrence in World War II.

It does look like, uh, from the 1940s onward, US military high command was in fact very interested in this problem, even though they said they weren't.

That's renowned UAP researcher and author Richard Dolan discussing the sightings around the time of World War II.

So you go through the early documents and ask yourself, "What were they saying about it?" And you discover, oh, there was actually quite a few declassified FOIA, uh, military reports that describe pretty fascinating encounters.

Pi- air force pilots encountering solar white discs that fly under their plane, and the pilot feels a bump as it goes underneath.

Or a CIA memo to the director of the CIA from his head of scientific intelligence in 1952 that says, "Sightings of unexplained objects at high altitudes and speeds, high speeds in the vicinity of sensitive US installations are of such nature that they are not attributable to natural phenomena or known types of aerial vehicles." That's a pretty straightforward statement.

And, you know, when you read enough of these, you start to think the public persona of these, these flying saucers is very different than what was being discussed within the classified world.

The more Nick looked into World War II reports, the more he became drawn into diving deeper.

I was actually very reluctant to get drawn into the whole kind of Nazi flying saucer mythos because I came from a very, [laughs] I like to think respectable, uh, a- aerospace and defense background.
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