Oct 2, 2026 · 40 min · 8 segments
This is the second installment of our new series, "SYNC-O-WICZ Presents: Lawfare". In this special episode, we are joined by Greg Dillon! Greg is the author of "The Thin Blue Lie". During his 30-plus…
Linda SzynkowiczHost
I mean, it goes on more frequently than people realize that the whistleblower is the one that is always attacked because you're not supposed to bring forward what you see that's going on.
And when I speak at different events, people will say, you know, why are there so few whistleblowers? And my answer is because number one, you're in jeopardy of losing your job.
And, you know, understandably, most people, almost all people don't want to assume that type of risk because there's very little upside and a tremendous downside to doing that.

Right, because even the spin of the newspapers and everything else, once they start getting negative stories out there, it just gets repeated over and over again, even though some of the stuff wasn't even fact.
So I used to joke that, you know, Not only if you have a skeleton in your closet will they find it, if you have a skeleton bone in your closet, they will find it and try to make something out of it.
So I walked into the courtroom, I don't want to say fearless, but without worried about something coming up that was going to somehow embarrass me or compromise me.
Because when you're on that witness stand under oath, they can pretty much ask you close to anything they want to, and you don't have much say in it.

And obviously they're there to discredit you any way that they possibly can.
You know, if you were in the private sector or even the public sector, but in a non-law enforcement capacity, and because of what you were going through, you decided you wanted to use your health plan to seek counseling or some type of, you know, see a therapist or something along those lines, you know, you would do it without... much concern because you don't have to really worry about someone throwing that in your face later.
If you're in law enforcement and you're carrying a gun for a living, you start to weigh like if i did feel i needed some sort of help are they going to now ask to have me give up my gun because they are aware that i am seeking some sort of counseling or i'm seeing a therapist however the flip side of that is when asked that question and i said no i had never sought counseling or spoke to a therapist They flip and they say, so this doesn't really have much of an impact on you at all, did it? This wasn't that big of a deal, was

I mean, it goes on more frequently than people realize that the whistleblower is the one that is always attacked because you're not supposed to bring forward what you see that's going on.
And when I speak at different events, people will say, you know, why are there so few whistleblowers? And my answer is because number one, you're in jeopardy of losing your job.
And, you know, understandably, most people, almost all people don't want to assume that type of risk because there's very little upside and a tremendous downside to doing that.

Right, because even the spin of the newspapers and everything else, once they start getting negative stories out there, it just gets repeated over and over again, even though some of the stuff wasn't even fact.
So I used to joke that, you know, Not only if you have a skeleton in your closet will they find it, if you have a skeleton bone in your closet, they will find it and try to make something out of it.
So I walked into the courtroom, I don't want to say fearless, but without worried about something coming up that was going to somehow embarrass me or compromise me.
Because when you're on that witness stand under oath, they can pretty much ask you close to anything they want to, and you don't have much say in it.

And obviously they're there to discredit you any way that they possibly can.
You know, if you were in the private sector or even the public sector, but in a non-law enforcement capacity, and because of what you were going through, you decided you wanted to use your health plan to seek counseling or some type of, you know, see a therapist or something along those lines, you know, you would do it without... much concern because you don't have to really worry about someone throwing that in your face later.
If you're in law enforcement and you're carrying a gun for a living, you start to weigh like if i did feel i needed some sort of help are they going to now ask to have me give up my gun because they are aware that i am seeking some sort of counseling or i'm seeing a therapist however the flip side of that is when asked that question and i said no i had never sought counseling or spoke to a therapist They flip and they say, so this doesn't really have much of an impact on you at all, did it? This wasn't that big of a deal, was
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