Oct 11, 2026 · 1 hr 14 min · 14 segments
“My whole life has been completely ruined by this. It's not an understatement for me to say that.” Welcome to our fourth episode of State of the Movement, a podcast wherein we discuss ideology…
I'll give, I'll give, I'll give one from Nabil, and I'll give a couple from my time in yeshiva.
Um, Nabil, he, he said to me, you know, one time I was coming from Bethlehem to Jerusalem, and, uh, there was a blockage at the checkpoint.
They couldn't go by, and he said he was stuck in his car for 10 hours, and he had to pee in a bottle.
He was like, "Oh, isn't that so funny? You know, I had to pee in a bottle." And I was like, "No, Nabil, that's actually...
That's a thing that's gonna happen." Um, and I, and, and I was like, "I don't think it's funny.
I'm not sure what's funny about it." Um, I also didn't think it was, you know, immoral.
Um, I thought the Israeli army should be allowed to block checkpoints if there's a security issue.
I didn't, I didn't think, "Ah, you know, it was wrong of the Israeli army to cause this blockage." Of course, I assumed that everything the Israeli army does, they were doing morally, so it must've been there was a reason, but I was upset by this, by this consequence, um, in a way that he wasn't even, a- and, and, and that also sat with me, that he w- just thought, "This is part of normal life.
I'll give, I'll give, I'll give one from Nabil, and I'll give a couple from my time in yeshiva.
Um, Nabil, he, he said to me, you know, one time I was coming from Bethlehem to Jerusalem, and, uh, there was a blockage at the checkpoint.
They couldn't go by, and he said he was stuck in his car for 10 hours, and he had to pee in a bottle.
He was like, "Oh, isn't that so funny? You know, I had to pee in a bottle." And I was like, "No, Nabil, that's actually...
That's a thing that's gonna happen." Um, and I, and, and I was like, "I don't think it's funny.
I'm not sure what's funny about it." Um, I also didn't think it was, you know, immoral.
Um, I thought the Israeli army should be allowed to block checkpoints if there's a security issue.
I didn't, I didn't think, "Ah, you know, it was wrong of the Israeli army to cause this blockage." Of course, I assumed that everything the Israeli army does, they were doing morally, so it must've been there was a reason, but I was upset by this, by this consequence, um, in a way that he wasn't even, a- and, and, and that also sat with me, that he w- just thought, "This is part of normal life.
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