Itamar Ben-Gvir

People need to know that.

The most extremist right-wings, Ben-Gvir, when he prays in the morning, when he daven with the tefillin, he ends with, That's not gonna, nothing gonna change that.

If you hate us without knowing who we are, you have to figure it out.

If people around you, because you're in the diaspora, and I feel for you, I feel for you, I'm not judging you.

I just want to comment on, like— There's like a feverishness and it's the speed thing that you're talking about.

Like when you look at a Ben Gvir, when you look at a Pete Hegseth, there's a grotesque, cartoonish fervor and pace that feels like it, to me, I don't know.

It just feels like we're on a really fucked up timeline that doesn't make sense.

They're

So I want to hear that people don't support Hamas.

I want to hear that Jews who I work with who do support Israel don't support Smotrich and Ben-Gvir.

I don't think that's such a crazy politics.

There's room for us to disagree or be

I mean, that's at least at the basic, so we understand this is what this is about.

Yeah, but because of that animosity and that lack of trust, it's hard to form that unity government, which can be formed tomorrow, especially if a war with Iran would break out, where Netanyahu brings Smatrich but leaves out Ben-Gvir and the ultra-Orthodox, and Isaacot and Bennett are there, apparently without Lieberman.

The numbers are there.

It can be done.

I think Avigdor Lieberman has a pretty clear view of what he thinks should be done with Palestinians.

And obviously, But Salah Smutrich and Ben-Gvir, Itamar Ben-Gvir, they have very clear visions as well.

And it's, you know, Netanyahu kind of burrs on the side of like, let's just leave the status quo and let it keep on going until, obviously, if you don't have a solution, then things... end up going haywire, which is kind of where we are today in Israel.

Right.

But one in which Netanyahu would have to be subordinate to Eisenkot is the idea here.

And so the idea here is that there's a broad national security – there's a broad unity government, but without Smutrich and Ben-Gvir.

With Likud, but Likud will be severely weakened because it will have to agree to Eisenkot's terms and so on.

But Lieberman, see Lieberman has said three things.

Lieberman, Bennett, Eisenkot, and so on.

And so on the question of Iran, the question of Hamas, Hezbollah, there's no major difference there.

The real difference between them is over the question of the legitimacy of Ben-Gvir and the question of religiosity in general.

And therefore...

And so I wonder if you can just talk to people who might not have seen much reporting about this, about what's actually happened.

What is happening in the West Bank now that Israeli current government led by Benjamin Netanyahu and Smotrich and Itamar Bingvir they are trying to create facts in the ground, even unreversible facts on the ground, to annex West Bank to Israel without Palestinians.

So in the last four years, they did a lot of measures, building settlements, making it easy to build settlements and to advance the tenders and to advance the settlement units with $19 billion.

shekels, budgets, house demolition, roads closed, communities separated, checkpoints, movement barriers in the West Bank around 950.

And do you think that the...

These decisions, do you think these decisions go all the way in terms of all the way up to Netanyahu or are they made by particular ministers inside the Israeli government or by the Israeli army? How do you think that these kinds of decisions get made to push for this kind of low, this continual kind of push towards making life more and more difficult and ultimately towards evacuating expulsion?

I want to say that it's not about Netanyahu, Itamar, Bingvir and Smotrich.

It's about that, you know, many, many Israelis voted to those leaders and even they are more aggressive and more fascist.

For a community where a large share of voters have stayed home from Israeli elections for years, some of them out of an ideological refusal to accept that Israel really does run this country, this is a huge jump.

The left-wing media rushed to blame Ben-Gvir and his measures against the Arabs as the reason they wanted political power, but here's what most people don't realize.

The suspicions of fraud actually started before the elections themselves, before there was this crazy high result.

Meaning there was data proving that this was something that was about to happen for quite a while.