Patterns Tell Stories | UFOs & High Strangeness
Oct 12, 2026 · 1 hr 29 min · 17 segments
In this episode, we review the new claims made by David Grusch during his recent appearance on Joe Rogan and the implications for the UFO disclosure movement going forward. **Listen to the extended…
[gentle music] The, the problem I was having was wait, why is this all coming now? Where was this three years ago? And how much of this does Congress know? How much...
Like, I didn't hear anybody in Congress really saying...
You know what I mean? Like, is, is this...
How out of the loop is everybody from everybody else who is in the loop right now?
I think it's even more simple than that, just based on how the interview went and the, the flow of it, and it, it basically just seemed like Grusch was saying yes to everything Rogan said.
Like, especially when he hit the part where he's like, "Oh, there's, there's two species of reptilians?" And he's like, "Yeah." He was basically, yeah, just agreeing with stuff that Rogan was saying that it, it basically was all al- already in the lore.
So I don't know.
I'm not taking-
Right
... any, any of it seriously, personally.
One specific one that I found really strange was he brought up child trafficking, which is a very-
Yeah
... serious topic.
Like, of course, we would address any topic that has an inkling to do with child trafficking.
It should be aggressively dealt with immediately.
And I'm so baffled at his obliviousness to the Epstein situation, which was about child trafficking.
This administration's response to Epstein was bizarre and inconsistent, and they lied constantly and misled the public constantly.
Why would we expect this administration to do anything about the information David Grusch has? It, to me, the cognitive dissonance was alarming.
Like, he seemed oblivious to the fact that Donald Trump completely whiffed on Epstein and on appearing transparent about Epstein.
Other countries make fun of us about this now.
I don't know.
Yeah, and the-
It's fucking weird, man.
Well, the, uh...
I, I mean, think about it.
[gentle music] The, the problem I was having was wait, why is this all coming now? Where was this three years ago? And how much of this does Congress know? How much...
Like, I didn't hear anybody in Congress really saying...
You know what I mean? Like, is, is this...
How out of the loop is everybody from everybody else who is in the loop right now?
I think it's even more simple than that, just based on how the interview went and the, the flow of it, and it, it basically just seemed like Grusch was saying yes to everything Rogan said.
Like, especially when he hit the part where he's like, "Oh, there's, there's two species of reptilians?" And he's like, "Yeah." He was basically, yeah, just agreeing with stuff that Rogan was saying that it, it basically was all al- already in the lore.
So I don't know.
I'm not taking-
Right
... any, any of it seriously, personally.
One specific one that I found really strange was he brought up child trafficking, which is a very-
Yeah
... serious topic.
Like, of course, we would address any topic that has an inkling to do with child trafficking.
It should be aggressively dealt with immediately.
And I'm so baffled at his obliviousness to the Epstein situation, which was about child trafficking.
This administration's response to Epstein was bizarre and inconsistent, and they lied constantly and misled the public constantly.
Why would we expect this administration to do anything about the information David Grusch has? It, to me, the cognitive dissonance was alarming.
Like, he seemed oblivious to the fact that Donald Trump completely whiffed on Epstein and on appearing transparent about Epstein.
Other countries make fun of us about this now.
I don't know.
Yeah, and the-
It's fucking weird, man.
Well, the, uh...
I, I mean, think about it.
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