Leading Conversations - the Begin Center Podcast
Jul 27, 2026 · 1 hr 17 min · 13 segments
This episode continues our series of conversations about the men - and one woman – who served as Prime Minister of Israel. For our discussion about Israel’s fifth Prime Minister, we welcomed the…
Itamar RabinovichGuest
Paul GrossHost
And it was the privilege of the foreign minister to nominate and for the prime minister to approve ambassadors in Washington and the UN.

So Paris, for instance, Shamil nominated Netanyahu to be ambassador to the UN and Paris agreed.

Then they could not agree on a new ambassador in Washington for several months.

And one day, I received a phone call saying that today there was another meeting between Paris and Shamir and Paris raised three names and the only one Shamir did not reject offhand was yours.

I went to see both Paris and Shamir Shamir and decided that I shouldn't go because there was no point in going to Washington as the foreign minister's ambassador.

You really have to be the prime minister's ambassador in order to be a real ambassador in Washington.

And just to clarify, this is at the point when Shamir is prime minister and Paris is prime minister.

And I also consulted with Rabin who thought I should go and decided not to go and that was it for a few years.

But then Rabin is elected prime minister in 92, and he invites me to meet him at home.

And so I sit down and said, you know, my most important problem is I need to replace the chief negotiator with Syria, with Yossi Ben-Aaron.

And it was the privilege of the foreign minister to nominate and for the prime minister to approve ambassadors in Washington and the UN.

So Paris, for instance, Shamil nominated Netanyahu to be ambassador to the UN and Paris agreed.

Then they could not agree on a new ambassador in Washington for several months.

And one day, I received a phone call saying that today there was another meeting between Paris and Shamir and Paris raised three names and the only one Shamir did not reject offhand was yours.

I went to see both Paris and Shamir Shamir and decided that I shouldn't go because there was no point in going to Washington as the foreign minister's ambassador.

You really have to be the prime minister's ambassador in order to be a real ambassador in Washington.

And just to clarify, this is at the point when Shamir is prime minister and Paris is prime minister.

And I also consulted with Rabin who thought I should go and decided not to go and that was it for a few years.

But then Rabin is elected prime minister in 92, and he invites me to meet him at home.

And so I sit down and said, you know, my most important problem is I need to replace the chief negotiator with Syria, with Yossi Ben-Aaron.
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