Imagine Heaven Podcast with John Burke
Jun 18, 2026 · 1 hr 38 min · 11 segments
Born into the chaos of the Rwandan genocide, Swidiq's childhood was marked by unimaginable loss, division, and survival. As violence tore through his country and fractured his family, he found…
Swidiq Cedric KananaGuest
John BurkeHost
[laughs] It's an amazing, amazing story, isn't it? Um, I mean, you just can't...

He found he got less death threats at borders if his name was Cedric, as an Anglican priest.

Uh, what else would motivate Cedric to endure such persecution? You know, in many Muslim cultures, if you convert from Islam to Christianity, Sharia law says you deserve death.

And in fact, Cedric's own father conspired with the leaders in the mosque to kill him at first.

And now things have changed since then, but God had to rescue Cedric again, and again, and again.

I wanna explain why Jesus appeared as He did, 'cause I just find this fascinating.

You know, in another interview, um, Cedric told me that Jesus had this brilliant light coming out of Him.

I think you, if you've heard the earlier episodes, you probably heard that episode with him.

He said the light pierced right into his eyes and into his soul, filling him with a peace, this, this light from Jesus.

And He said, "I died for mankind." Now, that's fascinating that that's what Jesus said to Swadeek, as He was in His glorified state, yet wearing a crown of thorns and showing the, the holes in His hands where He had been nailed to the cross.

And that's very telling because Swadeek was an a mo- a Muslim apologist, you know, uh, meaning he, he argued for the faith of Islam with, with others.

Now, many Westerners don't realize it, but Jesus is in the Quran, uh, the holy book of Islam.

[laughs] It's an amazing, amazing story, isn't it? Um, I mean, you just can't...

He found he got less death threats at borders if his name was Cedric, as an Anglican priest.

Uh, what else would motivate Cedric to endure such persecution? You know, in many Muslim cultures, if you convert from Islam to Christianity, Sharia law says you deserve death.

And in fact, Cedric's own father conspired with the leaders in the mosque to kill him at first.

And now things have changed since then, but God had to rescue Cedric again, and again, and again.

I wanna explain why Jesus appeared as He did, 'cause I just find this fascinating.

You know, in another interview, um, Cedric told me that Jesus had this brilliant light coming out of Him.

I think you, if you've heard the earlier episodes, you probably heard that episode with him.

He said the light pierced right into his eyes and into his soul, filling him with a peace, this, this light from Jesus.

And He said, "I died for mankind." Now, that's fascinating that that's what Jesus said to Swadeek, as He was in His glorified state, yet wearing a crown of thorns and showing the, the holes in His hands where He had been nailed to the cross.

And that's very telling because Swadeek was an a mo- a Muslim apologist, you know, uh, meaning he, he argued for the faith of Islam with, with others.

Now, many Westerners don't realize it, but Jesus is in the Quran, uh, the holy book of Islam.
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