Oct 6, 2026 · 52 min · 10 segments
In Part 1 of this powerful conversation on From Beer to the Bible, hosts Irvin Lee and Sarah Olivera McDonald sit down with Rick Hubbard to discuss his journey through addiction, recovery, faith, and…
Rick HubbardGuestSarah Olivera McDonaldHostLet's talk a little bit more about the family, um, the family piece and how that's so important just to our listeners who maybe there's families out there who are wanting to get a loved one help.
Um, what is your biggest advice on really how to let go, um, so that they can see that they do have a problem? I know that for me personally, I was so involved in my husband's recovery, um, that it hurt him.
And it wasn't until I got out of the way that God could start moving in his life.
Um, so what have you learned through the internal family systems and through, that you can share with our listeners on how families can help a loved one move along a little bit further in the recovery process?

One of the, one of the biggest challenges that I've, I've been faced with in trying to help families is there, uh, most families just simply don't have enough knowledge of what help should look like.

Um, because of their love and the fear of losing a loved one, you know, many families respond in ways that are, um, actually, um, that complicate the individual's, uh, ability to get well and stay well.

Um, but out of love, families can sometimes do things to can perpetuate the problem.

Um, one of the biggest challenges I've faced, uh, is in helping families understand that, you know, to step away-

... and allow that person to have their own spiritual experience is an act of love.

Um, in fact, what my mother did for me when she said I ha- I needed to leave, I had to leave-

I was angry then, but I understand today that had she not done that, there's no telling.
Let's talk a little bit more about the family, um, the family piece and how that's so important just to our listeners who maybe there's families out there who are wanting to get a loved one help.
Um, what is your biggest advice on really how to let go, um, so that they can see that they do have a problem? I know that for me personally, I was so involved in my husband's recovery, um, that it hurt him.
And it wasn't until I got out of the way that God could start moving in his life.
Um, so what have you learned through the internal family systems and through, that you can share with our listeners on how families can help a loved one move along a little bit further in the recovery process?

One of the, one of the biggest challenges that I've, I've been faced with in trying to help families is there, uh, most families just simply don't have enough knowledge of what help should look like.

Um, because of their love and the fear of losing a loved one, you know, many families respond in ways that are, um, actually, um, that complicate the individual's, uh, ability to get well and stay well.

Um, but out of love, families can sometimes do things to can perpetuate the problem.

Um, one of the biggest challenges I've faced, uh, is in helping families understand that, you know, to step away-

... and allow that person to have their own spiritual experience is an act of love.

Um, in fact, what my mother did for me when she said I ha- I needed to leave, I had to leave-

I was angry then, but I understand today that had she not done that, there's no telling.
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