Everything But The Little Fishies
Sep 1, 2026 · 2 hr 47 min · 13 segments
Vivisection and taxidermy.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I'd seen Watership Down before at some point, because I had vague memories of it when I rewatched it recently.
Well, a lot of people haven't.
It didn't do very well.
But for those who don't know, The Plague Dogs is written by Richard Adams, who also wrote Watership Down.
And both animated movies were made by Martin Rosen and essentially the same team of people.
So, you know, Watership Down was a very successful book.
The animated movie was very successful.
And...
There's a really good interview with him on the Plague Dogs Shout Factory DVD where he's talking about how he was kind of like, because of how everything went down in Watership Down, he was kind of on an ego trip during the Plague Dogs.
It's hard to tell, but you can kind of surmise that maybe... rosen was not exactly an easy person to work with and uh maybe even was acting like a bit of a fascist while making the plague dogs like what's really weird about it is he seems so uncompromising in his vision and he says he made exactly the movie he wanted to make but he was completely blind to how it would land with audiences i guess
Maybe, I don't know.
It seems like it's trying to provoke audiences in that way.
Yeah, I mean, he's not making a movie that opens with drowning a dog on screen as a, you know, not a provocation.
Yeah, but it was sort of advertised as a family film.
Watership Down was a family film, even though it's also kind of scary and violent.
It's kind of like one of those movies that you can sort of compare to The Secret of NIMH, like some Don Bluth movies.
It's sort of like... darker animated children's movies from that
time.
My memory of Mrs. Frisbee and the Rats of NIMH, which I haven't revisited in a long time, my memory of that was that it was kind of like a book for kids.
I don't really remember, but...
My memory tells me that was a kid's book.
And I haven't revisited Watership Down.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I'd seen Watership Down before at some point, because I had vague memories of it when I rewatched it recently.
Well, a lot of people haven't.
It didn't do very well.
But for those who don't know, The Plague Dogs is written by Richard Adams, who also wrote Watership Down.
And both animated movies were made by Martin Rosen and essentially the same team of people.
So, you know, Watership Down was a very successful book.
The animated movie was very successful.
And...
There's a really good interview with him on the Plague Dogs Shout Factory DVD where he's talking about how he was kind of like, because of how everything went down in Watership Down, he was kind of on an ego trip during the Plague Dogs.
It's hard to tell, but you can kind of surmise that maybe... rosen was not exactly an easy person to work with and uh maybe even was acting like a bit of a fascist while making the plague dogs like what's really weird about it is he seems so uncompromising in his vision and he says he made exactly the movie he wanted to make but he was completely blind to how it would land with audiences i guess
Maybe, I don't know.
It seems like it's trying to provoke audiences in that way.
Yeah, I mean, he's not making a movie that opens with drowning a dog on screen as a, you know, not a provocation.
Yeah, but it was sort of advertised as a family film.
Watership Down was a family film, even though it's also kind of scary and violent.
It's kind of like one of those movies that you can sort of compare to The Secret of NIMH, like some Don Bluth movies.
It's sort of like... darker animated children's movies from that
time.
My memory of Mrs. Frisbee and the Rats of NIMH, which I haven't revisited in a long time, my memory of that was that it was kind of like a book for kids.
I don't really remember, but...
My memory tells me that was a kid's book.
And I haven't revisited Watership Down.
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