Zack Korman, Cybersecurity Expert, Is Confident That Humanity Will SURVIVE

Cybersecurity expert and entrepreneur Zack Korman is an increasingly prominent nondoomer voice on Twitter. Naturally, with AI now breaking out of sandboxes and hacking corporate systems, people want to hear what cybersecurity experts have to say. So I’m thrilled that Zack was brave enough to face me on Doom Debates! Zack was reading Nick Bostrom at Oxford and worrying about AI doom as far back as 2016, but his views have since shifted. In a recent post, he writes: “This focus on AI causing human extinction is going to get people killed.” Now he expects security failures to give humanity plenty of opportunities to learn, fight back, and stop risky superintelligence development if necessary. We argue about whether sandboxing and AI monitoring are hopeless strategies, whether competing superintelligences would keep each other in check, whether to expect instrumental convergence, and more. Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/QJTeZfx1ZLk **Timestamps** 00:00:00 — Cold Open 00:01:15 — Introducing Zack Korman 00:03:41 — From Law to AI Security 00:09:17 — Why Zack Stopped Being a Doomer 00:12:03 — What’s Your P(Doom)?™ 00:21:00 — Why Zack Supports AI Safety 00:25:54 — Believing in Superintelligence 00:30:06 — AI Without Tools 00:39:42 — Warning Shots and Time to React 00:46:08 — A Country of Geniuses in a Datacenter 00:55:55 — Can We Sandbox AI? 01:05:58 — Monitoring and Layers of Defense 01:14:49 — Riding the Doom Train™ 01:22:23 — The Case for Accelerating 01:24:46 — AI CEOs and the Transfer of Power 01:34:19 — Who Presses the Stop Button? 01:41:38 — Humans, Bacteria, and the Limits of Power 01:48:30 — When Would Zack Pause AI? 01:56:13 — Will Different AIs Keep Each Other in Check? 02:06:11 — Can Progress Turn Against Us? 02:08:35 — The Ideological Turing Test 02:14:58 — Closing Thoughts **Links** Zack Korman on X Zack Korman’s website Zack Korman: “AI doomers are furious” Zack Korman: “AI doomers are anti-security” Zack Korman: “3 reasons sandboxing won’t secure your AI agent” Zack Korman: “This focus on AI causing human extinction is going to get people killed.” METR’s investigation of the OpenAI–Hugging Face incident The PHP Foundation: “Today’s PHP Security Release, and How We’re Strengthening PHP Security” Nick Bostrom: Superintelligence Center for AI Safety: Statement on AI Risk Eliezer Yudkowsky and Nate Soares: If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies AI 2027 Zvi Mowshowitz: “The Three AI Pills” PauseAI Eliezer Yudkowsky: “Value is Fragile” Aaron Scher at MIRI Doom Debates: Robin Hanson vs. Liron Shapira — Is Near-Term Extinction From AGI Plausible? Doom Debates: OpenAI’s BOMBSHELL Hack — Swarms of Agents, Zero-Day Exploits, & Misaligned AI Doom Debates’ Mission is to raise mainstream awareness of imminent extinction from AGI and build the social infrastructure for high-quality debate. Support the mission by subscribing to my Substack at DoomDebates.com and to youtube.com/@DoomDebates, or to really take things to the next level: Donate 🙏 Get full access to Doom Debates at lironshapira.substack.com/subscribe