Edinburgh

I have come fairly close, Katie, to finding my soul poet, though, after reading so, so, so much poetry.

I have found, I found a book in Edinburgh called Two Cures for Love by a poet named Wendy Cope, and I loved it so much I read the collection twice back to back.

And she's sassy, but it's just like, she's very authentic.

She's 80 now, so she's, like, older than I am, but this one volume, Two Cures for Love, was just so excellent.

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... we are, uh, you know, post, post-Edinburgh.

We're working it up into a musical show.

I think so, yes.

Um, so most people think of Sherlock Holmes beginning at 221B Baker Street, you know, with the pipe and the hat and the cocaine.

Uh, but he actually began somewhere far stranger, on a Victorian hospital ward in Edinburgh, where a Scottish surgeon named Joseph Bell was teaching students how to read a human body like a crime scene, and he had this incredible knack at being able to tell everything about somebody with a single look before they opened their mouth.

So a callus, a stain, a limp, all of these were clues to Bell if you just knew how to look.

And in 1878, Conan Doyle becomes one of his medical students, and that's really where Sherlock Holmes begins.

Queen Victoria.

It's in 1881, so it's before he's been outed as the real Sherlock Holmes.

She visits Edinburgh.

She visits the Royal Hospital for Sick Children, where he was a surgeon, and-

Um, and these doctors, uh, ended up, uh, uh, studying in a local system established by the British.

So the Iraqi medical training really adapted, uh, the, uh, uh, the curriculum of medical school in Edinburgh at that time, and that became the kind of the, the n- the, the new, uh, uh, uh, Iraqi medical-- the hub of, of, or the seed of the Iraqi medical education.

And that's the Royal College of Medicine in Baghdad, which is the first medical school in, in Iraq in the, in the 19-- It's, it was established in, in, in, in the '20s and '30s, and that became the nucleus of training these physicians in, uh, uh, and inducting them into the, the Iraqi state.

And part of the, the, the way this system was designed is to say, "Well, we're gonna give you free education.

exhausted, surely.

You've just got back from Edinburgh.

I'm absolutely pooped, if I'm completely honest with you.

I'm absolutely exhausted.

And it was just so funny.

Other people had nominated for best newcomer and everything.

And then I walked around Assembly Bar, which is where the artists are in Edinburgh.

And everyone was going, oh my God, did you win for Fuckers Pop? And I was like, how funny.

When I decided I was going to go to university to study Chinese and economics, joint honors, there weren't that many universities in the UK that offered that.

So I was going to Edinburgh.

I applied to different unis and I was told you have to read up.

about it, especially if you're doing interviews for university.

You're just a bit too nervous on screen.

So there was this idea in my mind that I thought, hey, I've always wanted to do this presenting thing, travel.

Why didn't I try and go for it? So I stayed in Edinburgh.

That was a disaster.

She enjoys teaching children about ecology and sustainable lifestyle choices, and she's passionate about sharing her love and knowledge of the marine environment, and she believes this is the best way to shape the future.

Her educational background, she has a BSc in honors in zoology from the University of Edinburgh in the UK, a master's of science in conservation biology from the University of Cape Town, and a PhD from the University of Stellenbosch, and she did a postdoc at SIAB, the South African Institute for Aquatic Biodiversity.

As I mentioned, she's currently the director of the Save Our Seas Foundation Shark Education.

And well, with all that, Clover, welcome to the show.

Dave, I have to ask

you a clarification, and Clover, you can clarify.

You went to the university, it's pronounced Edinburgh, right? Not Edinburgh? Edinburgh.

I just found that out recently.

Go and say it was great, like he had the boy on a yellow card, and he, he maybe could have sent him off, but he didn't do it, and it kept 11 men on the pitch.

We'd love to see that with an Edinburgh derby.

Aye, because, aye, aye, but that would go against, like [laughs] it would be the other way around in that occasion.

Aye, again-

daughter now because sticky vicky died sticky vicky junior sticky vicky june um and she pops like coke cans and light bulbs and all out of her dude like puts them up and then goes and then pops them out for performance

i saw him pull a sword out of her dude once it was i was so upset like And by sword you mean just a dick? A sword A full metal A full sword Where did you see this? In Edinburgh at the French Festival I had to leave I was so disturbed I don't know if Jordan

could have watched the Segway show So what happens then? I guess and I couldn't So it's Star Wars themed? So a guy and girl Come out as Darth Vader And Princess Leia On segways I mean hoverboard segways Do

we like things? I'm struggling