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Oct 28, 2026

Nicholas ThompsonHOST
10:08
Why don't we pause for a second and you describe what made you wanna write The God Test? When did you decide to do it? And then briefly give the argument for folks who haven't read it.
Robert WrightGUEST
10:17
So it's funny, I was writing another book and then when large language models came out, I fooled around with them a little, and then GPT-4 came out, and I fooled around more and was really blown away.
Robert WrightGUEST
10:33
And, you know, I had covered AI periodically in my journalistic career.
Robert WrightGUEST
10:37
I actually wrote the Time magazine cover story on when Deep Blue beat Garry Kasparov.
Robert WrightGUEST
14:05
And you still don't know exactly what's going on inside any more than you know what's going on in the brain.
Robert WrightGUEST
14:09
So
Nicholas ThompsonHOST
14:09
when you decide to write the book, when you realize how magical GPT-4 can be, and you go back and you listen to that old Hinton lecture, You then put two things together.
Nicholas ThompsonHOST
14:18
There's an amazing technology and it's a validation of this extremely interesting idea that you can kind of replicate the human mind without knowing how the human mind works.
PhilipHOST
5:37
I tried multiple times and every time it failed on word counts.
PhilipHOST
5:41
I'm not trying to pick on one GPT, but very often using one of the GPTs wasn't really an improvement on just using GPT-4.
PhilipHOST
5:49
There was, however, one notable exception to that, which was the consensus GPT.
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PhilipHOST
7:52
It's not sponsored, but by giving relevant links that I could then follow up with, it was genuinely helpful and better than GPT-4 base.
PhilipHOST
7:59
This is for the specific task of looking up scientific research on a given topic.
Max SperoGUEST
3:11
So I kind of went to all my AI research friends and was telling them, hey, I'm thinking about working on this.
Max SperoGUEST
3:16
And essentially the consensus from everybody was that this seems impossible to you know, why don't you just, you know, come join me at OpenAI and like work on making GPT-4 better or something like that.
Max SperoGUEST
3:27
It's like, no, no, I think there's something here.
Max SperoGUEST
3:30
I really do.
Kevin RooseGUEST
27:38
Yeah.
Kevin RooseGUEST
27:39
Well, except for the people at OpenAI because they were so desensitized to it because they already had GPT-4 internally.
Kevin RooseGUEST
27:46
So they're playing around with ChatGPT, and they're like, this thing sucks.
Kevin RooseGUEST
27:49
No one's going to be impressed with it.
David PierceHOST
28:43
It just has to be fun to talk to.
David PierceHOST
28:44
And these things were so fun to talk to.
David PierceHOST
28:46
And I think to your point, not only were the OpenAI people using GPT-4, they had been using GPT-2 and GPT-3, and they had become sort of inoculated to how wild it is to talk to the computer and have it talk back.
David PierceHOST
28:58
And then all of a sudden, everybody got this experience out of nowhere.
Jon KrohnHOST
15:39
And yeah, OpenAI were the leaders in that initially and just scaling this thing up by orders of magnitude, having more and more transformers on more and more NVIDIA GPUs.
Jon KrohnHOST
15:48
And every time they did that, GPT-2, GPT-3, GPT-4, they were shocked.
Jon KrohnHOST
15:54
The people developing these systems were shocked at the heightened levels of intellectual ability, of generalizability that came out of that scaling.
John RenneGUEST
16:05
What I find, I think that's incredible.
Aakanksha ChowdheryHOST
4:05
From 2018 to almost 2024, this graph is a little bit outdated, but from 2018 to 2024, as the model size has gone up almost consistently, we have been increasing the size of the model.
Aakanksha ChowdheryHOST
4:19
So we started with something like BERT was 340 million parameters, GPT-2 was 1.5 billion parameters, and then GPT-3 was 175 billion parameters, and then say Palm was 540 billion and then there was a bunch of subsequent models and GPT-4 is estimated to be there which is like trillions of parameters so you can imagine that there has been an exponential growth in just the model size for large language models.
Aakanksha ChowdheryHOST
4:44
The large stands for that they're growing in size and that has been one of the key areas in which the models have been getting better.
Aakanksha ChowdheryHOST
4:53
So why do we care about the models getting bigger? What does this lead to? So as I was explaining that as the models get bigger, they continuously improve in performance on national language benchmarks, on various other benchmarks, reasoning benchmarks, and so on.

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Azalia MirhoseiniHOST
22:29
For a bunch of tasks like math and coding benchmarks, we increase the number of samples per problem from one, which is the normal one, to 10,000.
Azalia MirhoseiniHOST
22:43
And here we are showing the coverage or the fraction of problems that are solved by at least one of these samples.
Azalia MirhoseiniHOST
22:51
And what we are seeing here is that, so the red line, the red dash line was the GPT-4-0 model.
Azalia MirhoseiniHOST
22:59
And while these blue and green lines, which were the LAMA-8B, LAMA-3-8B, and 70B, were worse than GPT-4-0 model with one sample, but if we increase the number of samples from these models, in all of these cases, they do better than the GPT-4-0 model.
Type III AudioNARRATOR
10:20
And finally, and I still don't fully understand or believe this, a miracle seems to have happened, deep inside the weights of the frontier models.
Type III AudioNARRATOR
10:28
Quoting Davidad, Quote, Somewhere between the capability profile of GPT-4 and the capability profile of OPUS 4.5, there seems to have been a phase transition where frontier LLMs have grokked the natural abstraction of what it means to be good, rather than merely mirroring human values.
Type III AudioNARRATOR
11:02
End quote.
Type III AudioNARRATOR
11:04
Quoting Yanis.
Jarrad PowellHOST
8:22
In a randomized controlled trial published in JAMA in 2024, Go and colleagues, G-O-H, Go and colleagues gave physicians tricky diagnostic cases.
Jarrad PowellHOST
8:34
So half of these physicians got GPT-4, which is the machine that powers ChatGPT-4 to help.
Jarrad PowellHOST
8:40
The other half used conventional resources such as books and internet sources.
Jarrad PowellHOST
8:46
physicians who had the AI barely improved.
Jarrad PowellHOST
8:50
So the AI barely helped physicians at all.
Jarrad PowellHOST
8:54
However, when GPT-4 in this experiment was working alone, it scored well above both groups.
Jarrad PowellHOST
9:03
So listen to that again.
Jarrad PowellHOST
9:05
GPT-4 working alone scored well above the physician using AI and the physician using conventional resources such as books and internet sources.
AI Explained

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o3 - wow

Oct 27 · 3 Mentions

PhilipHOST
15:33
The concepts are abstract enough that they would of course never have been seen in the training data.
PhilipHOST
15:38
The original GPT-4 flopped hard at this challenge in the paper In Nature, and 01 Pro Mode gets close, but still can't do it.
PhilipHOST
15:49
After thinking for nine minutes, it successfully translates who as double, but doesn't quite understand moreau.
PhilipHOST
15:57
It thinks it's something about symmetry, but doesn't grasp that it means between.
PhilipHOST
17:33
I just suspect it's not in the training data of O1 at least.
PhilipHOST
17:37
likely not in O3, but we don't know.
PhilipHOST
17:39
Is the base model for O3 Orion, or what would have been GPT-4.5, GPT-5? OpenAI never mentioned a shift in what the base model was, but they haven't denied it either.
PhilipHOST
17:50
Someone could make the argument that O3 is so good at something like physics that it can- UKG is
Zack KormanGUEST
49:37
genuinely it's either that none of this is about to happen we're just wrong about what the like future of develop of ai looks like maybe we don't hit asi as fast as we thought we don't even hit age like who knows that could be plausible so there's some probability you have to place on that like obviously you would agree like there's some probability that like gp8 isn't even good right like that's theoretically possible of course yeah there's some
Liron ShapiraHOST
50:01
probability that something hits a wall, but I will say this, my personal probability of thinking, you know, when GPT-4 came out, I was like, hey, there's like a 30% chance that we, remember this concept of AI winter, right? We had like five AI winters in a row followed by short AI summers.
Liron ShapiraHOST
50:16
And, you know, Robin Hanson was on the show a couple of years ago saying, yeah, we should expect more AI winters.
Liron ShapiraHOST
50:20
I haven't seriously considered AI winter in a long time.

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