Jun 22, 2026 · 2 hr 13 min · 14 segments
What happens when someone never planned on entering funeral service... and ends up dedicating their life to it? This week on *As The Hearse Turns*, Chris Boggs and Katharine Wagner-Elfner sit down…
Ruthann DisotellGuest
Chris BoggsHost
Katharine Wagner-ElfnerHost
Now, the actual the pin putting the heart there, that has got to be a great way for folks to start asking questions.
And he had mentioned that, you know, as he closes his gravesite service, he explains to folks that, you know, there's the physical death.
And then there's also a second death when a person's memory is lost and their name is no longer spoken.
so for the the memorial leaf and the heart there that allows folks to ask questions so you can keep your loved ones memory alive still and that i mean that is that that's that's awesome
exactly at the beginning of every celebrant service i pin the family in front of everyone
and read the poem and then after i set them down i let them know that whenever you want this person with you, you can take them with you.
And for everyone else in the room, if you ever see someone out and about wearing one of these leads, do them a favor and ask them who's your leaf and grant them permission to say their loved one's name, possibly for the first time since the funeral, because we all fall silent way too soon.
And really all they're thinking about is that person and don't feel like they can talk about it anymore because everybody's like, aren't you, aren't you, aren't you past that?
like you need to, you need to get on with your life, you know? And, and how rude, you know, I mean like, Grief doesn't go away.
I just recorded a video today that'll be coming out in July on our, on our social media accounts.
But I, you know, the more I think I was thinking about this and really pondering it, it's, they don't always necessarily happen in that order.
Now, the actual the pin putting the heart there, that has got to be a great way for folks to start asking questions.
And he had mentioned that, you know, as he closes his gravesite service, he explains to folks that, you know, there's the physical death.
And then there's also a second death when a person's memory is lost and their name is no longer spoken.
so for the the memorial leaf and the heart there that allows folks to ask questions so you can keep your loved ones memory alive still and that i mean that is that that's that's awesome
exactly at the beginning of every celebrant service i pin the family in front of everyone
and read the poem and then after i set them down i let them know that whenever you want this person with you, you can take them with you.
And for everyone else in the room, if you ever see someone out and about wearing one of these leads, do them a favor and ask them who's your leaf and grant them permission to say their loved one's name, possibly for the first time since the funeral, because we all fall silent way too soon.
And really all they're thinking about is that person and don't feel like they can talk about it anymore because everybody's like, aren't you, aren't you, aren't you past that?
like you need to, you need to get on with your life, you know? And, and how rude, you know, I mean like, Grief doesn't go away.
I just recorded a video today that'll be coming out in July on our, on our social media accounts.
But I, you know, the more I think I was thinking about this and really pondering it, it's, they don't always necessarily happen in that order.
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