Altered States Of Conversation
May 30, 2026 · 1 hr 49 min · 11 segments
A multimodal experiment in altered states of conversation, sensing for qualities of the Future Human. This took place at The Big Dinner: like pirate radio, but with dinners hosted at homes around the…
Sarah JanesGuest
Pamela von SabljarGuest
Tim AdalinHost
Simon van der ElsGuest
Carl Hayden SmithGuest
I can notice as my consciousness is like sucked back and comes through something that I would call more wholeness.

And there is a sense of my, there's an opening between my eyes and I feel the fabric on my clothes very clearly.

I am aware of the density of the field between us and in the way it affects my body and how my body needs subtle to move, to adjust to the richness of the potentiality that's a part.

And notice both spaciousness and joy by going upwards and downwards in my emotional interior.

And gratitude to be here in exploration that brings joy again to my chest and expansions on my backside of my body.

So now I'm in a state where I feel more as a body in space than a separate body with other separate bodies.

And so there's this compensatory movement of, okay, here I am then on a chair in this body.

I noticed that as I begin to speak and allow myself to share some truth that's closer to the energy that's moving within me, I feel more connected in general, but I maintain, I stay with this sense of anticipation, which wants to be respectful then of our entering together and the many thoughts images which come to me when it comes to the question of future human and in many respects that very dual motion of that physical sensation of on the one hand reminding myself to be here and of course here I am not moving anywhere exactly and yet wanting to go somewhere and the future is always like this we're always here exactly as we are never quite able to step into the future except all of a sudden We're in it.

And so I wonder from that perspective, what subtle shifts in our self-relation and relating to each other are in fact signs regarding the very portal, the very context, the very dimension of what it would be to step into the future, working with my fear, letting it go, stepping into joy and enthusiasm, mediating that contact.

Is it appropriate or not? Am I welcome to share this or that? What is interesting about my kneecap? Surely it's more interesting that I launch into some of what I was writing about today.

I have a feeling of returning to, I suppose, dialogue with other people because I finished a retreat about a week ago and I had a week on my own, just not talking to anyone, walking about in nature, swimming in the sea.

And that... was a very different experience to being in constant contact with a lot of people, going to different places, connecting consciously with other people as well, because one thing that often happens is people's dreams start to blend into one another and you recognise opportunities actually where when someone's told you a dream, something might happen later on where you can actually make that dream symbolically come true.

the future human is going to return to this oracular experience of the world and recognize that the world is always talking to us and we just aren't paying enough attention and we aren't listening.

But if we become very sensitive to the patterns of nature, especially if we listen to our dreams, we can recognize that we have these opportunities to communicate in more, I wouldn't say conscious, but more immaterial types of ways.

I can notice as my consciousness is like sucked back and comes through something that I would call more wholeness.

And there is a sense of my, there's an opening between my eyes and I feel the fabric on my clothes very clearly.

I am aware of the density of the field between us and in the way it affects my body and how my body needs subtle to move, to adjust to the richness of the potentiality that's a part.

And notice both spaciousness and joy by going upwards and downwards in my emotional interior.

And gratitude to be here in exploration that brings joy again to my chest and expansions on my backside of my body.

So now I'm in a state where I feel more as a body in space than a separate body with other separate bodies.

And so there's this compensatory movement of, okay, here I am then on a chair in this body.

I noticed that as I begin to speak and allow myself to share some truth that's closer to the energy that's moving within me, I feel more connected in general, but I maintain, I stay with this sense of anticipation, which wants to be respectful then of our entering together and the many thoughts images which come to me when it comes to the question of future human and in many respects that very dual motion of that physical sensation of on the one hand reminding myself to be here and of course here I am not moving anywhere exactly and yet wanting to go somewhere and the future is always like this we're always here exactly as we are never quite able to step into the future except all of a sudden We're in it.

And so I wonder from that perspective, what subtle shifts in our self-relation and relating to each other are in fact signs regarding the very portal, the very context, the very dimension of what it would be to step into the future, working with my fear, letting it go, stepping into joy and enthusiasm, mediating that contact.

Is it appropriate or not? Am I welcome to share this or that? What is interesting about my kneecap? Surely it's more interesting that I launch into some of what I was writing about today.

I have a feeling of returning to, I suppose, dialogue with other people because I finished a retreat about a week ago and I had a week on my own, just not talking to anyone, walking about in nature, swimming in the sea.

And that... was a very different experience to being in constant contact with a lot of people, going to different places, connecting consciously with other people as well, because one thing that often happens is people's dreams start to blend into one another and you recognise opportunities actually where when someone's told you a dream, something might happen later on where you can actually make that dream symbolically come true.

the future human is going to return to this oracular experience of the world and recognize that the world is always talking to us and we just aren't paying enough attention and we aren't listening.

But if we become very sensitive to the patterns of nature, especially if we listen to our dreams, we can recognize that we have these opportunities to communicate in more, I wouldn't say conscious, but more immaterial types of ways.
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