Jul 28, 2026 · 1 hr 3 min · 15 segments
Hear from acclaimed author and broadcaster Stan Grant in this special edition of The Fifth Estate as he reflects on the fragility of words and why contemplation and philosophy matter in an era of…
Stan GrantGuest
Sally WarhaftHost
Thank you, Erin, for that lovely introduction and, uh, acknowledgement of country.
It's an absolute thrill to be with you all tonight and to talk to Stan, um, in particular about this little book, um, which feels lovely to hold.
Uh, before we get into the book, though, Stan, I sort of think of you, I suppose if, uh, like a 12-step program-
I, I, I still write for the, um, [lips smack] Saturday Paper, which is, which is lovely.
It's one of the great experiences of my journalism career, actually, having the freedom to write.
I do every, um, fortnight a column there, and they, they really allow you to stretch out.
And Eric Jensen, um, the, the, you know, who, who runs the, The Saturday Paper, really values ideas and words.
Um, I'd always had a bit of a concurrent life as, both in journalism and academia.
I'd done my, my doctorate in theology and, uh, pursued that and philosophy and other things at university.
Thank you, Erin, for that lovely introduction and, uh, acknowledgement of country.
It's an absolute thrill to be with you all tonight and to talk to Stan, um, in particular about this little book, um, which feels lovely to hold.
Uh, before we get into the book, though, Stan, I sort of think of you, I suppose if, uh, like a 12-step program-
I, I, I still write for the, um, [lips smack] Saturday Paper, which is, which is lovely.
It's one of the great experiences of my journalism career, actually, having the freedom to write.
I do every, um, fortnight a column there, and they, they really allow you to stretch out.
And Eric Jensen, um, the, the, you know, who, who runs the, The Saturday Paper, really values ideas and words.
Um, I'd always had a bit of a concurrent life as, both in journalism and academia.
I'd done my, my doctorate in theology and, uh, pursued that and philosophy and other things at university.
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