Aug 4, 2026 · 54 min · 15 segments
Josh Jensen wrote a full 50,000-word draft of his debut thriller, then scrapped it completely because it felt like the book he was supposed to write, not the one he actually wanted to tell. In this…
Josh JensenGuest
Marc NadeauHost
And it centers around a protagonist named Graham Hayes that's a member of a former member of a tier one unit called the Regimental Reconnaissance Company.

Throughout my research and stuff, I found out that it's pretty not a lot to go on there.

So it gave me some creative freedom and gave me a non-Navy SEAL type ex-military protagonist.

He reluctantly returns home to Utah when his kind of estranged, chaotic brother finds himself in the center of a storm he can't really navigate.

And Graham returns home and faces his demons and also some very real threats from a corrupt venture capitalist with some cartel ties.

What does that mean? What does that mean to you if someone picks up this book and wants to read it? What should they expect? Are we talking about, and obviously I've read the book, so I know the answer, but just for the reader, should they expect, you know, horseback and cowboys or should they, I mean, you mentioned modern warfare or modern tier one teams.

So I think a lot of these quote unquote modern Westerns are thrillers with cowboy hats.

And it centers around a protagonist named Graham Hayes that's a member of a former member of a tier one unit called the Regimental Reconnaissance Company.

Throughout my research and stuff, I found out that it's pretty not a lot to go on there.

So it gave me some creative freedom and gave me a non-Navy SEAL type ex-military protagonist.

He reluctantly returns home to Utah when his kind of estranged, chaotic brother finds himself in the center of a storm he can't really navigate.

And Graham returns home and faces his demons and also some very real threats from a corrupt venture capitalist with some cartel ties.

What does that mean? What does that mean to you if someone picks up this book and wants to read it? What should they expect? Are we talking about, and obviously I've read the book, so I know the answer, but just for the reader, should they expect, you know, horseback and cowboys or should they, I mean, you mentioned modern warfare or modern tier one teams.

So I think a lot of these quote unquote modern Westerns are thrillers with cowboy hats.
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