Jul 6, 2026 · 1 hr 3 min · 15 segments
With Tom on vacation, Chris and Glenn welcome back Kemper Crabb to talk about his father, who was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize several times, along with Kemper’s experiences on missions to…
Kemper CrabbGuest
C. R. WileyHost
Glenn SunshineHost
And I could take over the show at this point and just ask you these questions, but I don't want to do that because there are a lot of fun things we want to get to.
But there are a number of things that you note here in your memories concerning your father that might strike people as non sequiturs.
So, you know, that would be generally people when they think of the reform, they think of us as just logicians of theology and experientially kind of, I don't know.
Even though your father had this remarkably broad background, he became Reformed, which is an interesting thing in and of
Dad was you know one thing that he believed was if the Bible says that you ought to do it and You know, I mean the only thing that makes sense of a lot of the scriptural passages Any kind of seeming opposition is a reform perspective.
So he saw that but of course, you know, we were this was during the Jesus movement and stuff and there are all sorts of the supernatural things that happened all the time and You know and from our perspective You know, the Reformed theological position made much more sense of an approach to the Bible that embraced the fullness of what it said about all of life, about life being inherently supernatural.
So, you know, so that posed no contradiction in my dad's head or our heads at all, because it just seemed like a step into a greater consistency with the Bible,
But if you actually read the writings of the people, for example, who did the Westminster Confession, they weren't hard cessationists.
They believed that God still spoke to people today, not with the same authority as Scripture, but nonetheless truly spoke to people.
And you bring that up today, and most people will reject it completely, or they'll quote John Owen, who's really talking about something a bit different, to try to refute it.
it always struck me as odd as, as someone who is reformed, but also a supernaturalist, it always struck me as odd that there's this, this hostility toward that kind of way of looking at the world in so much of the reformed camp.
And I could take over the show at this point and just ask you these questions, but I don't want to do that because there are a lot of fun things we want to get to.
But there are a number of things that you note here in your memories concerning your father that might strike people as non sequiturs.
So, you know, that would be generally people when they think of the reform, they think of us as just logicians of theology and experientially kind of, I don't know.
Even though your father had this remarkably broad background, he became Reformed, which is an interesting thing in and of
Dad was you know one thing that he believed was if the Bible says that you ought to do it and You know, I mean the only thing that makes sense of a lot of the scriptural passages Any kind of seeming opposition is a reform perspective.
So he saw that but of course, you know, we were this was during the Jesus movement and stuff and there are all sorts of the supernatural things that happened all the time and You know and from our perspective You know, the Reformed theological position made much more sense of an approach to the Bible that embraced the fullness of what it said about all of life, about life being inherently supernatural.
So, you know, so that posed no contradiction in my dad's head or our heads at all, because it just seemed like a step into a greater consistency with the Bible,
But if you actually read the writings of the people, for example, who did the Westminster Confession, they weren't hard cessationists.
They believed that God still spoke to people today, not with the same authority as Scripture, but nonetheless truly spoke to people.
And you bring that up today, and most people will reject it completely, or they'll quote John Owen, who's really talking about something a bit different, to try to refute it.
it always struck me as odd as, as someone who is reformed, but also a supernaturalist, it always struck me as odd that there's this, this hostility toward that kind of way of looking at the world in so much of the reformed camp.
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