Sep 18, 2026 · 1 hr 34 min · 9 segments
Welcome back to the Rational Policy Podcast! In this installment, our 52nd (!) to date, your stalwart hosts Mike Coté and Art Vandelay dive into a grab bag of the week in news and politics. We skip…
Mike CoteHostArt VandelayHostThe first thing we're going to talk about is actually something that was submitted to us.
Because the other day, Mike, you put out a tweet basically saying, hey, what should we talk about on the podcast this week? And we got a response from...

dr amber britain hale my friend she's uh she's great i've been on the the breakdown show with her a few times now uh very very smart commentator on foreign policy and stuff like that so she suggested to us to talk about this issue that's kind of bubbling for a while but just kind of had some news story about potential conference happening over it and that's a potential breakup of the united kingdom which It's been on the radar, like I said, for quite some time now, depending on how you want to put it, going back, I don't know, almost to when the United Kingdom united in the first place.

It's England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland, the three of the The other one on the main British Isle, then the other one, obviously, Northern Ireland.

There have been backs and forths about whether one of those territories should split off, multiple territories.

The Scottish independence movement has had referenda and stuff in the past for leaving.

And then Wales is kind of just like the redheaded stepsister, which, you know, if you know anything about Wales, they often do have red hair.

and so this is kind of a perennial question um something that a few things have kind of supercharged it though obviously brexit um back in i think that was what 2016 same year as trump got elected um which is the united kingdom left the european union which was something that was much more popular in england um than it was for instance in scotland and so that kind of caused some internal divisions or exacerbated some to

more more honest And there's also been a long process of what's called devolution, which basically means that the parliament that we think of, the British Parliament that meets in London, and that beautiful building right off the Thames, that is the parliament for the country, but there are also parliaments for each of the constituent nations.
The first thing we're going to talk about is actually something that was submitted to us.
Because the other day, Mike, you put out a tweet basically saying, hey, what should we talk about on the podcast this week? And we got a response from...

dr amber britain hale my friend she's uh she's great i've been on the the breakdown show with her a few times now uh very very smart commentator on foreign policy and stuff like that so she suggested to us to talk about this issue that's kind of bubbling for a while but just kind of had some news story about potential conference happening over it and that's a potential breakup of the united kingdom which It's been on the radar, like I said, for quite some time now, depending on how you want to put it, going back, I don't know, almost to when the United Kingdom united in the first place.

It's England, Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland, the three of the The other one on the main British Isle, then the other one, obviously, Northern Ireland.

There have been backs and forths about whether one of those territories should split off, multiple territories.

The Scottish independence movement has had referenda and stuff in the past for leaving.

And then Wales is kind of just like the redheaded stepsister, which, you know, if you know anything about Wales, they often do have red hair.

and so this is kind of a perennial question um something that a few things have kind of supercharged it though obviously brexit um back in i think that was what 2016 same year as trump got elected um which is the united kingdom left the european union which was something that was much more popular in england um than it was for instance in scotland and so that kind of caused some internal divisions or exacerbated some to

more more honest And there's also been a long process of what's called devolution, which basically means that the parliament that we think of, the British Parliament that meets in London, and that beautiful building right off the Thames, that is the parliament for the country, but there are also parliaments for each of the constituent nations.
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