Oct 11, 2026 · 3 hr 21 min · 28 segments
Megyn Kelly looks back in the archives at two of the past interviews in our "Get Healthy" series, with Dr. Casey Means and Dr. Mark Hyman. Follow The Megyn Kelly Show on all social platforms…
Casey MeansGuest
Mark HymanGuest
Megyn KellyHost
Well, we, I am old enough to have lived through the, the moment in time when the messaging changed from, um, what's bad for you is, uh, sugary foods and fatty foods are fine to fat is the problem, sugar is the solution.
To make them taste better, they put all the sugar in, and then we got hooked on this.
It wasn't that long ago, I guess 20 years ago, that I actually thought a, a healthy snack would be one of those packs of SnackWell cookies.
One of the i- illuminating points of the book is that I thought that, and many others think this way, because we've been led to belie- We've been defrauded by virtually every person in charge of every industry that touches the food that arrives a- in our kitchen.
Yeah, this is the unfortunate part that I think people really do need to understand because people do actually listen to the science.
When the USDA food pyramid said, "Eat 6 to 11 servings of grains and cereals per day," we did it.
But unfortunately, at the highest level of our medical institutions, there are conflicts of interest and corruption that are actually making the science that we're getting, um, not as accurate and not as clean as we'd want it to be.
NIH, tax funder, taxpayer-funded institution that we would ostensibly believe is, its sole interest is to keep Americans healthy.
But 80% of NIH researchers, uh, are, have a conflict of interest with, with, uh, with industry, so are getting paid also by processed food industry, pharmaceutical industry.
There was a report that came out that 8,000 NIH-funded researchers have a major conflict of inter- i- i- a conflict of interest with industry.
So we would assume that would just be clean, clean money from the NIH, from taxpayers, with a singular goal of American health.
Well, we, I am old enough to have lived through the, the moment in time when the messaging changed from, um, what's bad for you is, uh, sugary foods and fatty foods are fine to fat is the problem, sugar is the solution.
To make them taste better, they put all the sugar in, and then we got hooked on this.
It wasn't that long ago, I guess 20 years ago, that I actually thought a, a healthy snack would be one of those packs of SnackWell cookies.
One of the i- illuminating points of the book is that I thought that, and many others think this way, because we've been led to belie- We've been defrauded by virtually every person in charge of every industry that touches the food that arrives a- in our kitchen.
Yeah, this is the unfortunate part that I think people really do need to understand because people do actually listen to the science.
When the USDA food pyramid said, "Eat 6 to 11 servings of grains and cereals per day," we did it.
But unfortunately, at the highest level of our medical institutions, there are conflicts of interest and corruption that are actually making the science that we're getting, um, not as accurate and not as clean as we'd want it to be.
NIH, tax funder, taxpayer-funded institution that we would ostensibly believe is, its sole interest is to keep Americans healthy.
But 80% of NIH researchers, uh, are, have a conflict of interest with, with, uh, with industry, so are getting paid also by processed food industry, pharmaceutical industry.
There was a report that came out that 8,000 NIH-funded researchers have a major conflict of inter- i- i- a conflict of interest with industry.
So we would assume that would just be clean, clean money from the NIH, from taxpayers, with a singular goal of American health.
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