Mark Sisson

We are not a running animal.

My good friend Mark Sisson, recently a wonderful ultra runner of all time, published a book, Born to Walk, and he's absolutely right.

Remember, our genes expect us to walk.

I love taking a stroll with my wife, Penny, and our dogs, who are always eager to get outside.

All right.

Number seven, do my strength exercises even while brushing your teeth.

Now, my friend, the late Jack LaLanne, the godfather of modern fitness, taught me that you only need two exercises to build and maintain real strength.

That's squats, deep knee bends, and planks or pushups.

They were just using seed oils.

Yeah, they were calling it avocado oil, and almost 100% of the products were actually seed oils, including Mark Sisson's previous company.

Primal Kitchen.

Mm-hmm.

Right.

You know, what is your, what is your average walking speed or even just your step count during the day? And if you have a list like that, and people like, uh, like Dan John, Mark Sisson, uh, Kelly Starrett, um, Peter Attia, like, like, if you, you start to delve into some of these, like, books and resources out there, a lot of people have created their version of like-

Yeah

... "Well, here's, here's, like, some of the metrics that you should go after as, as you age." If you have a list like that, and I should put one together at some point, I would love to, and you just know, "Okay, well, that's good enough.

Today's guest is one of the founding fathers of the ancestral health movement, as well as the founder of the popular American food brand, Primal Kitchen, and the minimalist footwear company, Palova.

Please welcome to the show our new friend, Mark Sisson.

[clapping] Oh, it's been a long time coming, Mark.

I'm glad you're here today.

But it turns out there's a lot of seed oil in that.

And my point on that is I'm not sure that if Mark Sisson, who started that company, started out with that or if that's what happened as a result of the company being acquired.

But this is what happens all of the time.

And this is, you know, you hit the nail on the head with... with big food.

And part of my experience with wrestling was developing an unhealthy relationship with food.

body image and so I got really into nutrition secondary to trying to find ways to overcome that and being more knowledgeable about what I was putting in my body served as a way for me to feel more in control over My health and so it started really with an interest in the paleo diet through some of the early Thought leaders in that Who I guess not early thought leaders, but people who really brought it to the masses like Mark Sisson and Then I started to question why certain things were the way they were.

Like, why couldn't I have dairy? Or in some cases, it was like, why could you eat sweet potatoes but not white potatoes? A lot of them didn't really make sense to me.

I didn't really like the naturalistic fallacy that if our ancestors didn't have access to them, then we shouldn't eat them because they're interested in survival more so than optimal health.

Okay.

And in L.A. and as far as I can tell, it was like me, Mark Sisson, Tony Horton, Body by Jake started this.

Oh, wow.

There were no personal trainers.