The Economics Behind Recycling
Most recycling depends on profitability, not law
Sep 4, 2026 · 1 hr 10 min · 14 segments
Tom Szaky, founder and CEO of TerraCycle, was born in Hungary under the USSR, escaped as a political refugee with his parents at age four, found his first television in someone’s Toronto trash, fell…
Tom SzakyGuest
Anthony CodispotiHost
I had started, and to be very fair to my entrepreneurial journey, it was at the beginning in high school, more egocentric.

I figured entrepreneurship was my ticket to fame and fortune, like my best chance, but very self-fulfilling goals.

And I get to Princeton and maybe it's that sort of moment where it's a great reset in your life.

I've never had this moment of truly true freedom as I had between high school and university, you know, like where the slate is wiped clean.

And I was thinking a lot about what I had seen as classical entrepreneurship being a make a lot of money, then become, you know, a philanthropist and give it all away.

And I was like, well, why can't you sort of do both at the very same time? Why can't business be a power for not just wealth, but societal benefit, environmental benefit, you know, like do all that at the very same time.

So that concept was sort of lingering as I was thinking, you know, like what, what do I want to do? Cause I certainly knew I wanted to be an entrepreneur.

These pot plants have become much more friendly from a legal point of view now, but back then, not so much.

And one day they started feeding organic waste to worms and feeding that worm poop to the plants.

I had started, and to be very fair to my entrepreneurial journey, it was at the beginning in high school, more egocentric.

I figured entrepreneurship was my ticket to fame and fortune, like my best chance, but very self-fulfilling goals.

And I get to Princeton and maybe it's that sort of moment where it's a great reset in your life.

I've never had this moment of truly true freedom as I had between high school and university, you know, like where the slate is wiped clean.

And I was thinking a lot about what I had seen as classical entrepreneurship being a make a lot of money, then become, you know, a philanthropist and give it all away.

And I was like, well, why can't you sort of do both at the very same time? Why can't business be a power for not just wealth, but societal benefit, environmental benefit, you know, like do all that at the very same time.

So that concept was sort of lingering as I was thinking, you know, like what, what do I want to do? Cause I certainly knew I wanted to be an entrepreneur.

These pot plants have become much more friendly from a legal point of view now, but back then, not so much.

And one day they started feeding organic waste to worms and feeding that worm poop to the plants.
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