Jun 1, 2026 · 42 min · 10 segments
On this episode of The Feed Powered by Loblaw, host Michael LeBlanc sits down with former Bank of Canada Governor and renowned economist Steve Poloz for a timely and wide-ranging conversation about…
Stephen PolozGuestMichael LeBlancHostI'm not sure you had a crystal ball, but I'm going to ask you at the end of the interview to get that crystal ball out again with your book, The Next Age of Uncertainty.
You described a world that would almost return to be more chaotic, and you kind of helped us remember that things weren't always this smooth.
Now, this is four years ago, so there's a lot of things that happened between then and now.
My question for you is, as you reflect on the book, is what's happening today fit the model, exceeded the model, fall short of the model? How do you feel about the disruptions that we face today?

Five years ago, I was speculating that we would, in time, see a rising tide of risk and volatility because I identified these five forces that were acting.

They're the kind of forces that act slowly, like technological change or or demographic, population aging.

These are really big forces you can't ignore, and yet, as economists, we usually do ignore them because they're not moving quickly.

Like the way we ignore the tectonic plates under California until the day we don't.

And so those slow-moving processes, I thought that was what was going to happen, but did I expect, honestly, yes, this is exactly the sort of thing that I thought would happen, but I didn't think it would quite happen this quickly.

And I suppose, as one who predicted uncertainty, I should be the last person to not expect the unexpected.

I would not have assumed that would happen, although in the book I speculated that that that rising income inequality would promote that sort of populist kind of
I'm not sure you had a crystal ball, but I'm going to ask you at the end of the interview to get that crystal ball out again with your book, The Next Age of Uncertainty.
You described a world that would almost return to be more chaotic, and you kind of helped us remember that things weren't always this smooth.
Now, this is four years ago, so there's a lot of things that happened between then and now.
My question for you is, as you reflect on the book, is what's happening today fit the model, exceeded the model, fall short of the model? How do you feel about the disruptions that we face today?

Five years ago, I was speculating that we would, in time, see a rising tide of risk and volatility because I identified these five forces that were acting.

They're the kind of forces that act slowly, like technological change or or demographic, population aging.

These are really big forces you can't ignore, and yet, as economists, we usually do ignore them because they're not moving quickly.

Like the way we ignore the tectonic plates under California until the day we don't.

And so those slow-moving processes, I thought that was what was going to happen, but did I expect, honestly, yes, this is exactly the sort of thing that I thought would happen, but I didn't think it would quite happen this quickly.

And I suppose, as one who predicted uncertainty, I should be the last person to not expect the unexpected.

I would not have assumed that would happen, although in the book I speculated that that that rising income inequality would promote that sort of populist kind of
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